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[–]bobbobbybob 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

we don't need to 'take off'.

But posting OC is a good idea.

[–]Themagicalmidget 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

If our goal is to promote a free exchange of ideas within society and end the growth of echo chambers we do.

[–][deleted] 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

This place will become a target for cancel cultists the second it needs money for servers.

[–]Themagicalmidget 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This is true, but they likley have a plan for dealing with that. At least I hope so.

[–]bobbobbybob 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

what is it with the fame whores? have you learnt nothing from a couple of decades of this shit? stay small, grow organically, don't turn into a shithole. Force growth, lose yourself in the herd mind of the masses who don't give a flying fuck

[–]Themagicalmidget 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Because my aim is to change public discourse and to do so we need to end the balkanization of the internet. There are reasons there are more people drifting to the extreme left and right. One primary reason is that all internet discussion has turned more and more into an echo chamber. We can't solve anything if we don't even have slightly shared realities. If massive groups of people can congregate again and have productive diolog perhaps we can mitigate some of the recent events we have seen as of late. I'm not saying it will solve overything, but we have to start somewhere.

[–]pyropulse 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I hope you agree with 'bobbobbybob' that growth here should be organic and not forced.

[–]Themagicalmidget 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not forced, but strongly encouraged via telling friends and spreading word. We have to have some level of size to allow a base level of defense from larger and more hostile parties. If not all it takes is one bad New York times article and this place's payment processing ability and web hosting is cut off completely. I wish that were not the reality, but other sites can easily play dirty.

[–]bobbobbybob 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Your aim is to take over other spaces and twist them to suit your desires, instead of creating your own?

Of course.

[–]Themagicalmidget 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

How am I trying to take over a space? All I'm trying to do is increase diialog in the public at large. I'm not trying to shove some ideology down people's throats, other then increasing diolog. I have no ulterior motive to turn this site either further left or right, just to facilitate discussion between the left and right, as to aid social stability.

[–]pyropulse 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We don't need growth for those two ideals, of which are of great value. Once any community reaches a critical value, its quality tends to nosedive rather quickly. Growth is needed, up to a point, in which case it becomes greatly detrimental. - It is like the Chess community; they wanted growth so bad that they were willing to adopt toxic twitch idiots, of which greatly reduced the quality of content on the chess sub. - Why is blind growth desirable? So you can brag and say, "We have THIS MANY MEMBERS, WE MUST BE GOOD!" But after the critical value, size is directly correlated with inferior content (it is easier produce, and due to the sheer numbers, it will be produced at a greater rate than superior content). - When a community is in the 'golden zone,' it tends to produce more superior content than inferior content, precisely due to the fact that only those that have a higher interest and investment are within the community.

[–]Themagicalmidget 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't want it to spike like reddit did poste digg. I do however want others to tell like minded people of this place, as to increase our pool of people engage in discussion and hopefully have some of our ideas on here leak into public discourse. The very fact that neither of us has attacked each other yet at a personal level and instead attacked the argument is a testament to what this place has to offer. Imagine if that site cultural attribute could permeate other large websites like Facebook and Twitter via people seeing the benifits of its practice here? It's value to our society would be immense. Now I understand your concern that quality would nosedive if we had a huge and quick spike in our community and I agree with that statement for the most part. So maybe I should restate my goal as not sudden and fast growth. Rather, consistent moderate levels of growth, that make us large enough to defend from larger sites, trying tactics to shut down our payment processing or web hosting.