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[–]happysmash27 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What do Netflix and Apple do bad here? I'm already avoiding paying them money for other reasons (both Apple and Netflix have restrictive DRM that I oppose, and Apple is terrible in right to repair), but am curious what they do particularly badly on this side, and if it is relevant to my values. I simultaneously support social justice, while also heavily opposing the current censorship-ridden, ridiculously intolerant, unnecessarily divisive, and often even discriminatory implementation of it.

Edit: Looking at the list:

Apple—a “racial justice initiative,” details to come—$100 million.

The details are the only thing I care about, so if there are no details, it means nothing to me.

I don't see anything about Netflix in this first list.

Edit: From https://conservativeus.com/the-full-list-here-are-the-269-companies-who-are-supporting-blm-antifa-riots/:

Trump and members of his administration have singled out Antifa as being responsible for the violence at protests triggered by the killing of Floyd.

  1. Singling out a single cause for this violence seems very dubious to me.

  2. Being from the Trump administration doesn't help. I don't trust Trump at all, though am a bit more neutral to the rest of his administration.

Little is known about who funds Antifa activists, or how the groups get their resources.

Funds… to do what, exactly? What do members of antifa need to be funded for?

Antifa is not a single organization, and therefore, financial details, if any exist, are murky.

Finally one of these articles mention that antifa is not a single organisation! It's annoying when people talk about them as if they are.

But after all many companies decided to step up and publicly support the riots that BLM and Antifa are organizing through America.

I don't necessarily oppose this, depending on the details. Not all of the protests are riots, and some of the police violence has been pretty senseless.

Aha! Here is the statement from Netflix!

To be silent is to be complicit. Black lives matter.

We have a platform, and we have a duty to our Black members, employees, creators and talent to speak up.

This is a very vague statement, and not one I feel is worth boycotting over yet. Unlike companies like Reddit, Netflix has not said anything to imply that all the other lives don't matter.

TBH, I have seen for myself them do something a bit more annoying: The highlighting black representation in the children's section on Netflix. I feel that this somewhat promotes racism by implying to children that a divide exists between the black and white, and someone I know originally not from the US similarly feels that this is not something that belongs in the children's section of Netflix. The best implementation of race I have seen is in the Pokemon series Sun & Moon, where race is such a nonexistant factor that upon seeing someone with the same character model as Professor Oak but with a much darker skin colour, they actually mistake one for the other. This other character is Principal Oak, and is related to Professor Oak. This is how I feel race should be approached: as something that doesn't exist, rather than something to bring attention to. Although there may be some statistical differences between "races", there are also many mixed race people who don't fall into any of them, and as more and more people mix together, I feel that race shouldn't be focused on so much. Plus, races are already somewhat blended in many cases.

Apple's atatement, linked here seems to be specifically from Apple Music:

On Tuesday, June 2nd, Apple Music will observe Black Out Tuesday. We will use this day to reflect and plan actions to support Black artists, Black creators, and Black communities. #TheShowMustBePaused #BlackLivesMatter

I'm not sure what Black Out Tuesday is, but I'm guessing it's either a spineless logo change, or blocking people from playing music to "raise awareness" or something. If it is blocking people from playing music, I oppose this music service due to it not only having the power to do that, but also actually taking advantage if it. This goes back to my stance against DRM: I will boycott practically any company that can take back any digital content I have purchased, but especially will boycott them of they will take it back. Such an action would be a violation of trust. I don't oppose the goal; I just hate the implementation. If you want to do something, maybe implement blind hiring practices (where one only sees metrics related to performance, rather than race), or even boycott taxes (because the police are corrupt, and taxes pay the police), bit don't deny music to innocents. "Awareness" campaigns like this would be dumb (if they are doing it), and will likely turn people like me who would otherwise support it away from the movement.

[–]Dragonerne 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Unlike companies like Reddit, Netflix has not said anything to imply that all the other lives don't matter.

Have you seen their products? They're super woke and anti-white.

Once you see it, it's impossible to unsee it. I haven't watched anything from them in years.
Just one example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VS08cWZrlQA