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[–]BobQuixote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I looked at King's Wikipedia article and don't see anything that fits your description. Even so, King and Epstein would not be enough to support your claim.

[–]StillLessons 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

First, let's make sure we're talking about the right Larry King.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franklin_child_prostitution_ring_allegations

Now, this is Wikipedia, which has downplayed many "conspiracy theories" in the past. Because Wikipedia is biased toward more "official" sources, there is a natural anti conspiracy-theory bias there. That's fine. This is one perspective to balance against other perspectives.

If you're willing to do a little more digging, this one comes up:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQHrbJPhus4 (The Franklin Coverup - The Discovery Channel)

Now what's so fascinating about this is that this is from 1993, and the Discovery Channel was hardly a raving factory of "conspiracy theory". This is a very mainline source, who were prevented from broadcasting this. That in itself is very interesting. Then - if you are willing to watch it, you can see the actual people making the accusations. The ones actually involved. Then it becomes a question (as all questions are) of Who Do You Believe? And if you decide to believe those who claim this was a hoax, then we disagree. I've had contact with a lot of addicts and beaten-down people in my real life over the years. Spent a fair amount of time in 12-step rooms. There is a quality to reality that I trust myself to recognize. Actors come close, but there is something else there. I see these accusers, and I believe them.

There is also a video (though I have lost the link) of the interview with one of these accusers by the police. I wish I had that, because there's further credible evidence in there.

But again, in the end this will come down to Who Do You Believe? I believe these accusers, and I do not believe the people who claim this is all just conspiracy theory.

Lastly, if you believe that after his history with Monica Lewinsky, where he was forced into the open in front of us all, that Bill Clinton was just "casually associated" with Jeffrey Epstein, we really have little to talk about. Clinton is a very gifted liar. Are you willing to accept that? Given how fluently he lies, why in the hell would anyone believe a word he says about this, where he has the most to hide?

Agree with what I say here or not. Disagreement represents a difference in perspective as to the level of moral decay we currently face in our society. I see society-ending moral decay. Maybe you don't. I wish you the best either way.

[–]BobQuixote 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Well, I appreciate the extensive reply; I did not expect an attempt to fill out that evidential support.

I've started watching the video, but it's so long I replied before finishing it. I'll resume it later. It is at least better than what I saw for PizzaGate when that came out.

I'm pretty sure there is corruption involving some sort of sex-related activity (per Epstein's death), but I'm not convinced it has infected essentially the entire government, or that it involves a vast human trafficking network, or that it has anything to do with something so cartoonish as Satan worship or cannibalism.

I'm not sure my answer to all this, if I were to end up agreeing with you, would be not voting. The two things I can think of are 1) no change - there's nothing to do until something shakes out so you know the enemy, or 2) work in politics as an aide, or get some other job close to the suspects in order to shake something out myself.