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[–]JustAnotherRevanFan 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Let's see...

First of all, I can't discern the sources.. Can you give links?

Secondly, Zionism has many movements within it and many opinions. Many Zionists vehemently disagree with one another. There's secular and religious Zionism, diplomatic and practical Zionism, moderate and radical Zionism, traditional Zionism and post-Zionism. You can pick and choose between any form and flavor of Zionism you'd like to paint it as good or bad.

Thirdly, a bunch of old men did some cultural posturing. Is there any ethnic group innocent of this crime?

Fourthly, all you've proven from these Ben Gurion quotes is that either Ben Gurion knew the English hated Jews more than the Nazis, that he refused to take Nazi money or both.

The last few paragraphs are attacks on Herzl's character rather than criticism of his ideology.

[–]Jesus[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's Jews against Zionism dot com and all the sources are linked there. For example, Herzel's book 'The Jewish State' page 14, and all the newspapers I linked above. It have everything sourced above just not linked, you are free to type into duckduckgo the sources I posted above.

I'm against the ethnostate, period. I have proven that most Zionists are particularly anti-Semitic, espeically due to their anti-Semitism against arabs.

If Christians are arrested for missionary work in Israel and face more than a year in jail then of course I am going to be against the ethnostate and particularly Likudniks who have a long history of terrorism.