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[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

It's wasn't long ago that AOC was under attack from the Democratic establishment.

Yesterday many assumed she was going to lose during the primary and suggested Reddit would have a meltdown.

What do you think has actually changed?

[–]Wrang1er 3 insightful - 5 fun3 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

I would fuck AOC

[–]Questionable 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Nothing has changed. It's just another narrative being spun to control the conversation. I personally hadn't even heard of the importance of this primary until today after it had happened. And yet it was made to sound as though it's this huge thing that has been playing out for some time. It's not. It never was, and there is no reason to consider it now, or ever again.

[–]Wrang1er 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Too many idiots in her district. Only 27000 of 706000 voted.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's not unusual for primaries. You think that's it?

[–]the-unflattering-6 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

New Yorkers are among the stupidest people in the world. They bitch about De Blasio and Cuomo but line up to vote for them. They're all talk.

[–]kissfan7 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (41 children)

Maybe it's because "progressive" politicians actually agree with Americans on all the important issues.

[And I mean important shit, not women ghostbusters or whatever you incels are complaining about these days.]

[–]the-unflattering-6 8 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 2 fun -  (27 children)

No they don't. While its true that it's very difficult to get people off of entitlement programs, that's wholly different from the stunts leftists pull every day - several times a day - right now. These people are unhinged and poll after poll confirms that they are totally at odds with what Americans want. They don't want to defund the police, topple statues, burn down churches - in other words, total anarchy.

[–]kissfan7 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (25 children)

82 percent of Americans think wealthy people have too much power and influence in Washington.

69 percent think large businesses have too much power and influence in Washington.

59 percent—and 72 percent of likely voters—think Wall Street has too much power and influence in Washington.

78 percent of likely voters support stronger rules and enforcement on the financial industry.

65 percent of Americans think our economic system “unfairly favors powerful interests.”

59 percent of Americans—and 43 percent of Republicans—think corporations make “too much profit.”

82 percent of Americans think economic inequality is a “very big” (48 percent) or “moderately big” (34 percent) problem. Even 69 percent of Republicans share this view.

66 percent of Americans think money and wealth should be distributed more evenly.

72 percent of Americans say it is “extremely” or “very” important, and 23 percent say it is “somewhat important,” to reduce poverty.

59 percent of registered voters—and 51 percent of Republicans—favor raising the maximum amount that low-wage workers can make and still be eligible for the Earned Income Tax Credit, from $14,820 to $18,000.

96 percent of Americans—including 96 percent of Republicans—believe money in politics is to blame for the dysfunction of the U.S. political system.

84 percent of Americans—including 80 percent of Republicans—believe money has too much influence in politics.

78 percent of Americans say we need sweeping new laws to reduce the influence of money in politics.

73 percent of registered voters have an unfavorable opinion of the Supreme Court’s Citizens United decision.

80 percent of Americans think some corporations don’t pay their fair share of taxes.

78 percent think some wealthy people don’t pay their fair share of taxes.

76 percent believe the wealthiest Americans should pay higher taxes.

60 percent of registered voters believe corporations pay too little in taxes.

87 percent of Americans say it is critical to preserve Social Security, even if it means increasing Social Security taxes paid by wealthy Americans.

67 percent of Americans support lifting the cap to require higher-income workers to pay Social Security taxes on all of their wages.

66 percent of Americans favor raising the federal minimum wage to $10.10 an hour.

59 percent favor raising the federal minimum wage to $12 an hour. [...]

63 percent of registered voters think the minimum wage should be adjusted each year by the rate of inflation.

61 percent of Americans—including 42 percent of Republicans—approve of labor unions.

74 percent of registered voters—including 71 percent of Republicans—support requiring employers to offer paid parental and medical leave.

78 percent of likely voters favor establishing a national fund that offers all workers 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave.

60 percent of Americans believe “it is the federal government’s responsibility to make sure all Americans have healthcare coverage.”

60 percent of registered voters favor “expanding Medicare to provide health insurance to every American.”

58 percent of the public favors replacing Obamacare with “a federally funded healthcare program providing insurance for all Americans.”

64 percent of registered voters favor their state accepting the Obamacare plan for expanding Medicaid in their state.

63 percent of registered voters—including 47 percent of Republicans—of Americans favor making four-year public colleges and universities tuition-free.

59 percent of Americans favor free early-childhood education.

76 percent of voters are “very concerned” or “somewhat concerned” about climate change.

68 percent of voters think it is possible to protect the environment and protect jobs.

72 percent of voters think it is a “bad idea” to cut funding for scientific research on the environment and climate change.

59 percent of voters say more needs to be done to address climate change.

84 percent of Americans support requiring background checks for all gun buyers.

77 percent of gun owners support requiring background checks for all gun buyers.

57 percent of Americans believe police officers generally treat blacks and other minorities differently than they treat whites.

60 percent of Americans believe the recent killings of black men by police are part of a broader pattern of how police treat black Americans (compared with 39 percent who believe they are isolated incidents).

68 percent of Americans—including 48 percent of Republicans—believe the country’s openness to people from around the world “is essential to who we are as a nation.” Just 29 percent say that “if America is too open to people from all over the world, we risk losing our identity as a nation.”

65 percent of Americans—including 42 percent of Republicans—say immigrants strengthen the country “because of their hard work and talents.” Just 26 percent say immigrants are a burden “because they take our jobs, housing and health care.”

64 percent of Americans think an increasing number of people from different races, ethnic groups, and nationalities makes the country a better place to live. Only 5 percent say it makes the United States a worse place to live, and 29 percent say it makes no difference.

76 percent of registered voters—including 69 percent of Republicans—support allowing undocumented immigrants brought to the country as children (Dreamers) to stay in the country.

58 percent think Dreamers should be allowed to stay and become citizens if they meet certain requirements. Another 18 percent think they should be allowed to stay and become legal residents, but not citizens. Only 15 percent think they should be removed or deported from the country.

58 percent of Americans believe that abortion should be legal in all or most cases.

68 percent of Americans—including 54 percent of Republicans—support the requirement for private health insurance plans to cover the full cost of birth control.

62 percent of Americans—including 70 percent of independents and 40 percent of Republicans—support same-sex marriage.

https://prospect.org/power/americans-liberal-even-know/

Also, most Americans support Black Lives Matter. 60% of white people support BLM.

https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2020/06/12/amid-protests-majorities-across-racial-and-ethnic-groups-express-support-for-the-black-lives-matter-movement/

And again, I'm talking about important shit, not old statues to traitors.

[–]Questionable 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (23 children)

Responding to the only text that you wrote. No sane person supports looting murderous rioters. As for the rest of your submission, what does it prove, that you know how to copy paste?

"And again, I'm talking about important shit, not old statues to traitors."

No, you're not talking about anything. You literally stated no objective facts, and have presented no argument of any kind, and just spammed push pole results with no relevance. There isn't even an introductory statement as to what you could be attempting to present to us.

Here is the sum of your statement in this thread, minus the cut and paste:

Maybe it's because "progressive" politicians actually agree with Americans on all the important issues. [And I mean important shit, not women ghostbusters or whatever you incels are complaining about these days.] Also, most Americans support Black Lives Matter. 60% of white people support BLM. And again, I'm talking about important shit, not old statues to traitors.

How do you function? How do you even manage to put on your own shoes? For the record, you are not progressive. You don't even understand what that word means. Or even what the word Incel means.

"The first online community to use the term "incel" was started in 1993 when a Canadian university student known only by her first name, Alana, created a website in order to discuss her sexual inactivity with others. The website, titled "Alana's Involuntary Celibacy Project", was used by people of all genders to share their thoughts and experiences."

For the love of your own sanity. Think things out fully, not in sound bites. Type out full sentences paragraphs and thoughts, and not through quips taken from others, and stop using mental short hand in your writings, you vicious syrup covered potato waffle.

[–]kissfan7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (22 children)

I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings.

OP's video expressed shock that AOC won. I'm simply pointing out that many, many, MANY surveys from multiple sources have shown that her positions are in fact extremely popular. Some are even popular among Republicans. Thus her victory is not shocking at all.

This triggered you for some reason and left you unable to respond to these objective facts.

[–]Questionable 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (19 children)

I'm sorry that I hurt your feelings.

What? You do understand this is text right? You have no ability to judge emotions or feelings of others through the internet.

"This triggered you for some reason and left you unable to respond to these objective facts."

Please look into the differences between subjective statements and objective facts. Poll results are not objective facts. As an online discussion, this is the limit of my ability to help you.

[–]kissfan7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

Um, yeah, polls are objective facts.

The opinions expressed in the polls are not objective facts, but the polls themselves are.

"Wealthy people have too much power and influence in Washington" is an opinion.

"82 percent of respondents to this poll think wealthy people have too much power and influence in Washington" is a fact.

"82 percent of Americans think wealthy people have too much power and influence in Washington" is a reasonable inference one can gain from that fact.

[–]Questionable 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

You clearly do not understand how push poles work, or how the manipulation of data takes place. Take this for example:

"82 percent of Americans think wealthy people have too much power and influence in Washington"

That's the outcome of the poll but what was the question asked? And which demographics of Americans were asked? And as a statement on it's own, what does it even mean? I can use that assertion against your best interest, though simple naming schemes. Say something catchy like the 'patriot act' or 'net neutrality'. they can even implement private militias through campaigns of de-funding the police. Those aren't facts, those are data points and telemetry weaponized for the personal gains of the rich.

[–]kissfan7 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (14 children)

I don't kow how "push poles" work, but I can tell you that particular poll was not a push poll. It was done by AP and the University of Chicago's NORC Center for Public Affairs Research.

Here's the URL for the article that has the link for each number provided:

https://prospect.org/power/americans-liberal-even-know/

Again, I'm sorry if these numbers hurt your feelings.

[–]Questionable 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

"Again, I'm sorry if these numbers hurt your feelings."

I... I can't even comprehend you. Look, you are using a possibly objective polls, based on subjective opinions, to justify your subjective statement that American's support The George Soro's backed BLM movement in response to statements that they are an anarchist group. Where as the linked poll pushes the subjective agenda that most people are liberal, while self defining what it means to be liberal. To back the statement that Ocasio Cortez crushed her rival that was... Also a democrat in a primary? And for some reason you are fixated on my feelings? Let me know if you find fault with any of those statements.

[–]Wrang1er 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Where were these polls taken? I have yet to receive an email or physical mail for these polls

[–]kissfan7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's in the article.

[–]Wrang1er 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What republican supports her policies?

[–]kissfan7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Read the list of polls. Or just Ctrl F "Republicans".

[–]Wrang1er 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

people want to defund the police? That also puts less money into training, which makes no sense. They want America to burn, then so be it.

[–]Wrang1er 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

Not really, most women hate communists like her. They must be incels too. I'm sure I could agree with her on at least one issue...

[–]ManWithABanana 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I'm sure I could agree with her on at least one issue...

I am so glad to hear that. It seems like there's little effort to find common ground in politics, and yet I agree with you - the worst politician is going to support SOMETHING that I would agree with and we can possibly work together to make it happen.

[–]kissfan7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Depends on your definition of "communist". Is it communist to support Social Security, EITC, economic equity, and fighting climate change? Is it anti-commmunist to suck up to the ultra rich?

[–]Wrang1er 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Social security encourages government dependency, which she likes very much. She is "fighting" climate change with awful policies. Lower taxes equates to more cash flow,more jobs, and less unemployment. Look at Ronald Reagan's term for instance, unemployment for black people went from 19% to 13%. The economy bounced back from Carter's time in office.

[–]kissfan7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So is Social Security communist?

Lower taxes equates to more cash flow,more jobs, and less unemployment.

Yeah, we've tried that experiment a few times, bro. Didn't work out.

Look at Ronald Reagan's term for instance, unemployment for black people went from 19% to 13%.

https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/LNS14000031

The economy bounced back from Carter's time in office.

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-carterreagan.htm

[–]Gunk 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Like identity politics?

Faggot.

[–]Wrang1er 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Who are you talking to?

[–]kissfan7 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Himself, mostly.

[–]Wrang1er 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Tim Pool?

[–]Gunk 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Your faggot friend.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

not women ghostbusters

;-)

[–]suckitreddit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Lots of retards voted for a retard. Are we really surprised? They want representation!

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    [–]Etorres4u 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    I would definitely fuck that horse

    [–]Etorres4u 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

    So let me get this right, a freshman congresswoman with no real power in the Democratic party wins a primary and you are ready to declare that “leftist mobs” are taking over the party?
    Talk about being an alarmist. Give me a break

    [–]Wrang1er 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (11 children)

    People are voting blue at high rates, especially far leftist/socialist. In the future, more of these people will be in power. These kinds of people will destroy the country, that's why.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    a lot of blue are conservadems who sell out to repub s and the rich. So we have a cycle in politics, people vote for dems, the dems in power sell out, people voting feel betrayed and get apathetic thinking both parties are the same, don't vote, repubs win instead due to low turnout, repubs wreck the economy, people get pissed off and vote dem, rinse and repeat.

    [–]Wrang1er 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (9 children)

    Funny because Trump is a republican and before Covid-19, we had a historically great economy. Blue cities had the worst policies, so their economies took the biggest hit.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    yeah the response to the corona has been a diasster. He didn't think it would be a big deal but hundreds of thousands died needlessly while he said it was no big deal. I guess it's not much a surprise the rich would do something like this, release a bioweapon then do nothing to help the people deal with it. They don't want the economy to be good for us. Economy always crashes under a repub president, but then a democrat comes in and slowly fixes it with austerity which is unpopular so he gets voted out and a repub comes in to ruin things again. Basic shock doctrine.

    [–]Wrang1er 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (7 children)

    Trump has no power over the states, just like dems said.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    That is true, say the federal govt had ordered a lockdown. He could actually since we are still in a state of emergency since 9/11, but doing so would anger people and cause them to realize and question why that is so. Maybe Trump even knows corona is dangerous and wanted to lock down the country, he was on conference calls with all the governors. I always remember how Obama definitely ordered occupy wall st crushed but had mayors of cities do it. Because the federal govt stopping protests is against the 1st amendment. The constitution gets broken all the time though. They just have to be careful to cover their ass when they do it. Supreme would rubber stamp anything anyway. Trump had the protests around the whitehouse teargassed for the bible photo op, that will go to supreme court but you already know how that will go. Dismissed. They give people protesting free speech zones, unconstitutional. The fed govt could invoke military powers in an emergency to make people go to lockdown. Kind of like Abe Lincoln halting habeus corpous during a war.

    [–]Wrang1er 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    People would then call Trump a dictator, just look at twitter.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    true but it is foolish to make presidential decisions based on worrying what people on twitter will say

    really he shouldn't even go on twitter, but he's a clown

    [–]Wrang1er 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    If Trump does that, the media would smear him and damage his public image. He should go on parler instead.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    would be good if true. Just one representative out of 535 though. Mob vs the jewish rich bankers that own both parties. Won't see me crying for them.