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[–][deleted] 9 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 1 fun10 insightful - 2 fun -  (28 children)

soros a big time capitalist, does this for money. Conservadems focus on social issues to distract from things like leftwing economic policies and actual socialism.

If we fixed inequality in the economy with socialist economic polcies, black people wouldn't be so poor and they would commit less crimes and then white people wouldn't avoid them so much and then they would recognize their common enemy, the rich.

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SOCALISIM IS STUPID. WE WOULD BE ALL DED

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You are confusing socialism with communism. There has been a huge psyop to conflate these two opposite words.

If they were the same, why did the National Socialists fight the Communists in World War II? Anybody with a few working neurons would realize it doesn't make sense to equate or even relate the two.

SOCIALISM is intrinsically tied to CAPITALISM. SOCIALISM is what keeps CAPITALISM civilized. Not enough of it and you have the USA. Too much of it and you have Sweden. Canada used to be a role model for middle-of-the-road socialism.

COMMUNISM is a completely different system, it is devoid of both socialism and capitalism, WHICH GO HAND IN HAND. And yes, it is a stupid, destructive system. Calling out stupidity is fine, but it is much better to do so from an educated perspective.

You've been fed disinfo, sorry.

[–]ua4[S] 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (25 children)

ww2 was more about fascism vs communism. hitler idolised mussolini to the end. he also used to say national socialism is socialism done right.

lenin put it plainly: the goal of socialism is communism. this is still true today, the united nations and china think it too. no matter what you think to know.

fascism used to be defined as a political ideology opposing communism in the dictionaries.

and of course socialism is never civilized, just look at the life in the eastern block countries during the cold war, or cuba.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

Hitler was pissed off at Mussolini and thought he was an ignorant fool for his military blunders.

I'm glad in Hitler's case we have National Bolsheviks in the US with Swatsika tattoos. Most of them are Jewish pretending to be white supremecists in order to ideologically subvert true nationalism and community. /s

I always say; who gives a flying crap about the president, focus on your community. It starts there.

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    [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    /u/useless_aether

    Or

    /u/ua4

    Huh?

    You love to write about Templars.

    How about pick up Solzhenitsyn's book and stop reading memes online. The top commisars in russia were largely Jewish. The lie is that most of the Bolsheviks were Jews; wrong, but the leaders who controlled the Cheka and gulag system were all Jewish rasied in orthodox tradition only to renounce their religosity.

    Some people don't want you to read his book and use sly language to get you not to.

    Such as Solzhenitsyn was an anti-Semite or even better, Solzhenitsyn never said Jews controlled Russia so why read it bigot. The latter is a red herring, the formwr is an ad hominem.

    Good thing we have neoconservative Jews in the US to subvert the constitution even further than what the old republicans did and demolish the twin towers.

    [–]ua4[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    i can afford to read memes, you don't, since your knowledge is lacking.

    jesuits created the soviet union and used jews as proxies as they always do and did throughout the history. remember this, before you reply to my comments in the future.

    [–]Jesus 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Whatever you say. Jesuits didn't do 9/11. Likudnik Jews did. For that reason certain Jews can be blamed jsut as Jesuits can for other things.

    [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    So far this seems clear, but some people try to confuse issues by adding the Jesuits. The theory of Jesuit take-over is indeed called a NWO theory, but mainly by the apologists of the “Freemasons-Jewish bankers” theory. Its goal is to imply that the real danger comes from the Vatican. (This fear sounds really medieval, the Pope does not any more have such power.)

    Likewise there is the Synarchy theory, which proposes that there is a right-wing Nazi group, which tries to take over the world. Both cases, the Jesuits and the Synarchy, are quite pertinent to NWO. It is easy to show that these are not any counterexamples or alternative bad guys, both these theories are connected to the real NWO conspiracy.

    There was the real NWO conspiracy: it was the Freemason plot and it was not any conspiracy theory. The New World means America and the New World Order meant the new social order, that is, the American way, democracy. Freemasons continued their conspiratorial activities from 1770ies to 1870ies. In the 19th century the subversive activity of Freemasons was lead by Memphis and Misraim lodges.

    That seems to point out to Jesuits, but before concluding that the Illuminati had links to Jesuits, let us notice that before 1776 the Society of Jesus had been suppressed in most countries. The first one to suppress them was Portugal in 1759. In some countries Jesuits were allowed to continue (Russia, Prussia and the USA), but in Frankfurt, where the Illuminati was founded, the Society of Jesus was suppressed in 1773 by the Papal order: under pressure Pope Clement XIV was forced to extinguish the society in 1773. There are no indications that Weishaupt belonged to some kind of secret Jesuit order, or that there was such, but he probably did use Jesuit’s organization as a model for the Illuminati structure.

    From the web pages of Freemasonry it appears that Weishaupt only wanted the best of the humanity but the subversive program of the Illuminati is well outlined in the documents that were obtained by the Bavarian police. Because of these documents Illuminati was dissolved by the Bavarian Government in 1784. Illuminati had managed to infiltrate Freemasonry elsewhere. Freemason John Robinson exposed Illuminati’s plans and infiltration to Freemasonry in Proofs of a Conspiracy, 1798, [1] and Masons made an effort to purge Illuminati from their ranks, but they did not succeed.

    The founder of the Jesuit order, Ignatius de Loyola, was pro-converso and pro-Jewish, but he had included into the Jesuit Constitution a rule that from everyone wanting to join Jesuits should be asked if he is a New Christian. If this practice had been done, it had been possible to limit the number of conversos and to know who were conversos, but the practice was not continued. Loyola had converse co-workers, such as Juan Alfonso de Polanco and Jeronimo Nadal. When Loyola died, as the new supreme general was elected a converso, Diego Laynez. His closest men were conversos: Juan Alfonso de Polanco, Jeronimo Nadal and Christobal de Madrid. Laynez still did not allow conversos to become the majority of new admissions, but under the third supreme general, Francisco de Borja (of the family of Pope Alexander VI and Cesare Borgia) the Jesuit Order become to be seen as a Jewish Synagogue. Conversos had made a complete take-over of the Society.

    Whether the problem of conversos was only that they gained power in the Society, or were the conversos also leading the Society in a non-Christian spirit, is not well answered by [8]. It is explained that Palmio thought that New Christians were still Jews and “overly ambitious, insolent, Janus-faced, pretentious, despotic, astute, terrible, greedy for power, and infamous”, and that “the neophytes want to dominate everywhere and this is why the Society is agitated by the tempest of discords and acrimonies”, and that “all their and our evils proceeded from neophytes and especially from those who governed in Rome”.

    “Being children of this world, pompous, cunning, fake, self-seeking, etc.,it is certain that they fit religious life very badly and that it is impossible to maintain union with them. If those of this blood are made superiors, they employ almost all their government in external things: they promote genuine mortification and solid virtues very little and seem to be merchants, seeking first seats and being called rabbis; they are hardly eager to seek perfection that is described in the parts 5 and 6 of the Constitutions; and readily admit others of the same blood who are very unworthy.” [8]

    It is difficult to say how much there is anti-Semitism, how much depends on cultural differences only, but clearly there was an anti-converso lobby in the Society of Jesus and Acquaviva was part of it. If Monita secreta was written before 1596, then it probably was an effort of pro-converso lobby to defame Acquaviva. An inside converse lobby is the most likely origins of Monita Secreta. The main outside enemy of Jesuits was Jansenists, but why would Jansenists need to falsify a document against Jesuits? Later the main opponent of Jesuits was Freemasonry. They could have falsified, but in 1612 Freemasonry did not exist.

    From this I conclude that in the Jesuit NOW, actually the ones involved in it are echoes of the same ones as in the other NWO theories.

    There are few other NWO theories that can be briefly commented. One, proposed by Marvin Antelman [9] and supported by Henry Makov and others, is that Frankists and Sabbateans would be still there somewhere. There still are a few Dönmeh members, a Sabbatean group in Turkey, but Frankists and Sabbatean are not controlling this world, and they never were so numerous. This theory is simply nonsense.

    Now I wonder, sinceVatican 2, how many Kabbalist Jews are new modern Jesuits? That being said, they don't have the power to blow up and demolish the WTC complex killing 3,000 and get away with it. ZIonist Jewish Likundiks did that and they loathe the Vatican and traditional Rome.

    Weishaupt was of Jewish roots, though his parents (or grandparents) had converted. Von Knigge, Weishapt’s Illuminati’s second man, was a co-creator of the Memphis lodges (originally called Philadelphes), which were Freemasonry, known for leftist revolutionary activities. Freemasons were the main opponent of Jesuits and a strong force in suppression of Jesuits. Illuminati infiltrated Freemasonry.

    ~ Jorma; from his blog here: https://www.pienisalaliittotutkimus.com/2018/02/24/jesuits-freemasons-communists-jews-synarchy-same-claims/

    [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Attacks character. Sends link of video which does not prove Jesuits as a whole did 9/11. Uses esoteric symbology with zero sources to prove Jesuits did do 9/11. There is fr better evidence proving Likudniks and neocons did 9/11 than Jesuits who if aligned with the Vatican were totally against the Iraq war.

    [–]magnora7 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Yeah I banned him, because of the nonstop stream of baseless allegations and the fact he won't listen to any counterarguments, and now he is constantly evading bans by making new usernames... what a fun guy.

    [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    according to lenin first you would have a vanguard party lead the country to socialism and then communism. The vanguard party just never freely gave up power, shocking, and became the nomenklatura. Aka oligarchy. Which russia still has. What is communism? Series of decentralized communes. USSR had state capitalism. Very centralized. Same as USA today. The USE, aka european union is similar.

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    And National Socialism isn't fascism?

    So you are a disciple of Lenin, and his words are gospel to you. Got it.

    I don't know of any formerly socialist regimes in the Eastern block. I know plenty of communist ones though.

    Looks like you have many wires crossed my dude. Best uncross them if you will talk about this topic.

    Also, don't use Orwellian Newspeak. It's bad. And that's the only language in which the definition of "Socialism" lends an air of truthfulness to your statements. Are you a pro-totalitarian Big Brother surveillance state communist?

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      [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

      Sadit is a place for discussion. As such "right back at ya." is a woefully insufficient response that does not help discussing the matter at hand.

      I have taken each one of your assertions and written a clear response to each. If you wish to refute my responses, please do so, this is how a higher understanding of topics emerges.

      This response of yours benefits nobody.

      [–]magnora7 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      He's already been banned, and now he's created other accounts to ban evade which is against site rules

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        [–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

        I have explained my position. You find it condescending. OK whatever. That's not the topic.

        [–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

        ua4 supports anarco-Capitalism which Lenin would enjoy for it would eventually via easy subversion bring about a centralized communist state run by despots.

        [–]yellow_algebra_31 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

        and of course socialism is never civilized, just look at the life in the eastern block countries during the cold war, or cuba.

        what is/was it like in those places?

        [–]ua4[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

        after the commies took over a city, it started with executions, followed with land and property confiscation, then jamming families in small city flats that were made by partitioning larger flats from the previous era. only communist party members could be employed as intellectuals (teachers, journalists, engineers, etc). the old, displaced intellectuals were forced in rural areas to do farm work. mandatory 'work actions' (slave labour) to build public infrastructure. mandatory public schools, with indoctrination. suppression of religion. prison camps for political prisoners. the works.

        [–]Jesus 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

        Peasants worked with the Bolsheviks because they wanted change and had little opportunity under the Tsar. Little did they know most of the commissars were Jews (it wasn't just Trotsky) and were foreign to Russia. The old Bolsheviks would then go unto execute many of the Peasants and live as kings like the Tsar totally in opposition to what the glutonous "never worked in my life" Marx preached. That the lower class would rise to lead. Didn't happen like that. It was just a revenge plot against Orthodoxy and everything Russian.

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        Indeed, I concur. Also, there was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING socialist about that regime. Socialism exists only in capitalist economies, not in communist ones.