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[–]Jesus 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Ahhhhhh, no, NS executed many democratic socialists. Very odd that you would conflate NS with democratic socialists.

[–]joewest1313[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

I think the point here was all socialism as a political vehicle sucks.. socialist policies for the benefit of a populous are not inherently bad.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Okay, fine, but what aboit socialism locally or communism locally? For example, many of the early Christians who lived in communals was a mix of communist principals and capitalism. Just a thought.

[–]joewest1313[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I wouldn't hold up religion as the guiding light to show us the way but your point is taken.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Well the New Testament is chalk full of peace and love. It refers that we must work for faith. And in doing so help others. Not many people help others today, at least in the US, it is all about radical individualism, pushed by the Frankfurt school, which just so happens Jordan Peterson, the "SJW slayer" and Zionist shills.

[–]joewest1313[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Which makes you wonder why the Old Testament is such a weird book with parables and wacky law shit then the messiah shows up except the pharisees are like umm no we don't like our power being usurped.. and your salvation through faith alone goes forward. It's almost like two different religions and in the case of the Jews they are still not hip to the whole Jesus new testament faith to this day.

Control. Any system that advocates controls should be avoided.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Hope I don't waste your time, but would like to rant here. The New Testement is also filled with parables, as Jesus often spoke in Parables. In my faith I believe in the subjective faith, that is, prayer and talking to God on a personal level rather than following the theology of a denomination. The Soren Kierkegaard existential truth, which advocates a life of faith in Christ which will bring about Good works; this faith is far closer to the "Child Like" faith of "The Way." In this way, faith, following and then the word is read. Rather than its opposite, that the New and Old Testement must be followed and faith is 2nd or 3rd in command. When we subjugate ourselves to read before faith, we can plummet into the anti-Christian theological aspects of Christendom. If one is born without ever knowing the word, but yet has faith in God and does the works of Jesus, he is with God and God will judge him as such. He may not know God, as John 14:6 points out, but he still incurs a righteous Judgement from God. And Jesus's story about the Good Samaritan, who was not Jewish, but helped the fickle man on the side of the road, whilst others passed by him, those others being priests and Jews, illustrates that the Samaritan was see as righteous in the eyes of God and would be judged as such.

Fortunately, in this globalized world most people can obtain the New Testament, which is an instruction book to follow "The Way."

Nearly all modern Jews today reject Jesus. They are a defection from God and are thusly apostates to Jesus and his teachings which came from God. And it makes sense that they did, whether one wants to believe in God or not, because they are full of love and faith, rather than the teachings and oral traditions of man which the Talmud preaches and in which the Torah is only the 1st of the covenant. Some, however, messianic Jews, who follow many of the traditions and culture of Judaism believe Jesus to be the Jewish Messiah, these Jews, of whom are closer to the Jews who followed Jesus in his time of pilgrimage.

Interestingly, paralleling todays age of decadence and fall from grace, the culture of creditor jubilees and debts owed at interest; Jesus went to look for apostles that could help his cause, he chose a money-changer, a Tax-collector, and a fervent right wing radical, and Nationalistic Jew, like the Zionist we see today, these men then gave up their occupations and sins to follow "The Way" and help the needy and to FORGIVE DEBTS, that means debts in heart and in money and interest, for usury is considered a sin in Christian thought and "The Way", but that we must not rebel, only serve in faith and forgive all debts. Romanism changed debts to trespasses! And what do we live under now but a caricature of Roman Law, which forgives not debts.

The Old Testement is the Jewish Bible. Jesus often used parables from Psalms and was well versed in Judaism. So he understood their dualisms, qualms and hypocrisy in tradition and trivialness in oral law.

The Jews today who do not follow what Jesus preached are anti-Christ. It's that simple. Is that Anti-Judaic, no because the Jews today are not really Jews. "The Way", is Judaism. Fortunately many Jews did follow Jesus and turned the other cheek, the pagan Romans than created an institution around Jesus to inhibit the conservative revolutionary brotherhood of "The Way", and its good works and faith in God rather than believing a fallible man, such as Caesar to be God.

Many Protestants say that the Deuterocanonical books are apocrypha; that they are not Scripture. One of the reasons given is that there were no prophets in any of these books. The church rejected the Book of Enoch as did Judaism, and yet it is considered one of the oldest books ever written, which was quoted by Jude and read widely during Jesus' time. Why reject this text when in it it Enoch says it was written for a remote generation still to come! Well for two thousand years it was lost and when Israel was founded it had been found in a cave! And is now read widely today. It is canon in the Ethiopian church and Armenian church.

What do we find in it? Considering it was written between 300 - 100 BC and also considering that it was rewritten down on a scroll and is thus likely far older than the current copies we have, considering it talks about tablets, rather than scrolls, we read the EXACT prophecy to the year of when Jesus, the Son of Man will be born, 70 generations. It is uncanny, and at the thousand year close of Enoch's Weeks (which is how they determined time) the chosen people should scattered and their temple burnt with fire. Again, Enoch prophesied the 70AD event to almost the very year! The next Weeks consist of the apostate generation and the church age and finally the return of Christ and the false Christ and the destruction of the world, but in plenty of detail.

I believe the Roman Catholic church and Judaism banned this book, because it prophesies Jesus and historical events to the very years and two, because it talks about the Nephilim and Fallen watchers from the sky, that beget Giants. The old testament talks about the Nephilim in various places but never details them further. Nevertheless, like this book, other books as well talk about Jesus such as: The Wisdom of Solomon! Probably written by an Alexandrian Orthodox Jew.

Nonetheless, Wisdom 2:12-20 is one of the clearest passages that point to a person who would call himself Son of God, who would be put to death by jealous people. Let us look at Wisdom 2:12-20 12:

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jesus frees people from the bonds of mans law and the Lion of ego. Christendom which Jesus never preached, nor the instituion of Christianity, seeks to control and subvert Jesus and his teachings making them trivial!

He preached the way! Catholicism is very much like rabbinical pharisaism and all of its high priest and oral traditions!

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

At the end of the day, modern so-called Jews, are not really Jews, unless they follow "The Way." Jesus made this known in the bible which is why many Jews today are changing verses and buying up bible publications, calling Jesus a rabid anti-Semite. Just as Roman Catholicism is a hierarchal instituion of law which is anti-Christ and similar to a Sanhedrin, so isn't modern Judaism today.

Jesus preached love annd truth. That's why I love all people, even my enemies or those that I expose.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Here's the verse written by an Orthodox Jew: doesn't sound too good.

"Let us lie in wait for the righteous man, because he is inconvenient to us and opposes our actions; he reproaches us for sins against the law, and accuses us of sins against our training. 13: He professes to have knowledge of God, and calls himself a child of the Lord. 14: He became to us a reproof of our thoughts; 15: the very sight of him is a burden to us, because his manner of life is unlike that of others, and his ways are strange. 16: We are considered by him as something base, and he avoids our ways as unclean; he calls the last end of the righteous happy, and boasts that God is his father. 17: Let us see if his words are true, and let us test what will happen at the end of his life; 18: for if the righteous man is God's son, he will help him, and will deliver him from the hand of his adversaries. 19: Let us test him with insult and torture, that we may find out how gentle he is, and make trial of his forbearance. 20: Let us condemn him to a shameful death, for, according to what he says, he will be protected."