Bernie before and after

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[–]JollyRunstride 10 insightful - 8 fun10 insightful - 7 fun11 insightful - 8 fun -  (6 children)

Is the fear of socialism a fear that the government is going to take your money? Over half of your federal taxes go toward war. Billions of dollars for a bomber, but don't you dare give a dollar towards food for another poor person.

[–]fizzyj 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (5 children)

People would rather vote for war than healthcare.

I don't get it.

[–]KevinCostner 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I have healthcare already without flipping the entire industry on it's head, almost certainly making it much less efficient, and spending a lot more in taxes than I do for premiums. Total military dominance by the United States is needed, and there's only one way to get it.

[–]ScienceOverAll 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (1 child)

Do you hear yourself?? Have you watched Team America World Police and thought "gee this is awesome!!!" or something?

[–]KevinCostner 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know that it is a very significant advantage that we could fight a conventional war with just a couple of our aircraft carriers and win against most countries. Do you see this as something other than an advantage?

[–]Klondike 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

How the hell could it possibly be more inefficient than it already is? $500 for a single Tylenol at the ER? You somehow think change will make this situation worse? Or how about the (now nunerous) studies showing that it will in fact save money, and your taxes will in fact be far less than your healthcare premiums?

[–]KevinCostner 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, no. Our system could become much less efficient. You aren't looking at spending anywhere close to 500 for a single Tylenol on average in the ER. Not even in the same galaxy. If you honestly think the situation can't be made worse, then you are smoking crack. There's a rock bottom, and it isn't in the US. There is no way, and I mean no way, that the taxes I would be forced to pay to socialize the entire healthcare system of the US would cost less than my premiums. 100 Percent can't be done, won't be done. Anyone that believe it will be, is, again, smoking crack.