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[–]beermeem 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

oh hai leftist

I remember when "Liberal" was an American term of derision. Ah, the good old days.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

the media, owned by israel, had made liberalism, leftism, and socialism terms of derision, theyir central bank wants capitalism, aka let the rich do whatever they want and bribe politicians.

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I enjoy your perspective, but it doesn't quite add up. The mainstream media and academia overwhelmingly promotes liberalism and socialist policies..ie..Marxism, while demonizing Right leaning ideologies to the point of blatant censorship.

I understand that elite leftists are ultimately pro-corporate and pro-war. However, claiming they're trying to make their minions and useful idiots become sources of ridicule, which affects their credibility, seems like a stretch.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

they divide and conquer, now the medisa promotes identity politics but not leftwing economics. Bernie is wildy populr because he does the opposite. HOWEVER, I am not naive to think that if he somehow becomes president, he will not sell out. Either that or he would be JFK'd.

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, I get what you're saying and understand how both sides are intentionally agitated to create conflict. I'm just not entirely convinced that when a right leaning news outlet etc. points out problems caused by prevalent left wing ideologies, that the right leaning source is automatically (as Tom Bombadil would say) an "Israeli propaganda site". I have found a few instances that are suspicious, but many genuinely seem to be grassroots resistance to global corporatism.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

haha tom is against speaking in general, are there israeli propaganda sites out there? yes. does that mean every news site is one? No. Just cuz something possibly occurs he wants to always bring it up and that makes it hard to discuss anything. Now to mention a rw, grassroots resistance to global corporatism. Globalism? Corporatism? Capitalism right? Being for these things used to be considered rw. Bill Clinton got criticized from the left for NAFTA. They call it neoloiberalism. Why not regular liberalism, why the neo? Laiiz faire, free market capitalism, classical liberalsim. Socialism is against this. Socialism is not necessarily liberal, liberal and conservative don't necessarily match up with leftwing and right wing. It shouldn't all get put in a box. How about national socialism. Gets a bad reputation because of what went down with WWII. If they weren't rounding up jews and invading other countries, what would have been the problem? USSR. Was that national socialism too? That nation being russia. If they weren't putting people in gulags and invading eastern europe would they have been so bad? Ok end of rant.

[–]Zahn 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Good /rant, thank you for your intelligent input.