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[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

That's not the definition of socialism.

Socialism is worker control of industry.

You're using the fraudulent Soviet propaganda version, which attempted to leverage The populist appeal of socialism.

The US was more than willing to repeat this fraud, because it helped to vilify socialism.

Corporate Welfare are socialistic programs.

Other socialistic programs:.

  • Medicare
  • social security
  • public sewers
  • utilities
  • public roads and freeways
  • Public Education (which was used for brainwashing and schooling instead of actual education
  • Fire departments
  • Police (formerly Union bashing hired thugs transferred to the public's payroll. Literally.)
  • National parks
  • Etc.

The costs of all of these services are socialized.

Americans actually love socialism, but they don't recognize it when they see it.

Free-market was a concept similar to utilities, where you aren't gouged for using it. You (formerly) paid a small fee just above the cost to produce.
A "free market" was a market so efficient, that the products were almost free beyond the actual cost to produce.

Imagine paying a few pennies above cost to use your cell phone? Or Internet?

The public commons own the airways. They telecoms rent from us; for free.

We deserve a discount for using our property.

That's traditional free-market.

[–]DffrntDrmmr 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Nothing you've said here is correct. You have a really skewed understanding of socio-economics and its terminology.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

Really? Are you certain that you weren't schooled; rather than educated.

How do you know if you've learned the actual history vs. the revisionist version?

Do you really think that millions of people around the world favor govt control of industry?
Are you certain it's not worker control of industry?

Cause it is, and that's what they schooled you to prevent you from learning.

Example: FDR's n "New Deal" was a socialist program.

Don't worry though, because I was schooled too at one point.

I'm not a socialist, but I'm no longer schooled, either.

I'll give you +3 karma for the first step towards unschooling.

[–]DffrntDrmmr 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

My version is established and matches encyclopedias, textbooks, statesmen and is common knowledge.

Yours: ill-informed angsty social media nonsense. ;)

[–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

The version I reference is there Adam Smith classical economics version.

Your version is the Rockefeller Chicago school fraud version, that doesn't work, because it's a myth.

Real world applications in your economic version are called "special cases".

Literally, All real world applications are special cases, because the theories are crap, and they predict nothing.

You are a bit more educated for having read this.

Feel free to cite real world successes of your version to prove me wrong. ;-)