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[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (27 children)

Socialism is government control of the means of production. Sigh This crap just isn't going to stop, is it?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (26 children)

"Socialism" in orwellian newspeak means what you think it means, TOTALITARIAN COMMUNISM where the government takes over means of production. Except that's not actual English. To use the term "socialism" to describe an economic system is wrong. It is a philosophy of governance.

Socialism in the English language means "ANY regulation of capitalism that aims at reducing iniquity". Please note that INIQUITY is not at all the same thing as INEQUALITY.

Iniquity is where inequality is structurally encouraged to grow and be maximized. Iniquity is where, no matter how hard you work, how smart you are, how much education you get, you still don't get a fair shot at "making it" whereas a class of privileged individuals WILL make it no matter how dumb and lazy they might be. Just look at dubya's career as an example.

THIS: is why socialism is required: https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/rich-free-money-capitalism-broken-ray-dalio-011750854.html

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

You realize that redefining words to suit your needs is what the villain did in Orwell's 1984?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (24 children)

That is precisely what I am denouncing, yes. Do you have a point?

I am not doing it. It IS being done. I am denouncing it.

[–]Chipit 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (16 children)

You redefined the word socialism to suit your interests. That's exactly what Ingsoc (meaning "English Socialism") does in 1984. They amputate and mutilate the language to serve their needs. 1984 was a dystopia. It was meant to serve as a warning, you're not supposed to copy it!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Dude. I am warning people that the Wikipedia definition of the word IS newspeak. It is false. I'm not changing anything, I'm speaking of the TRUE meaning of the word, not this invented orwellian crap.

You got this thing completely reversed. You got 1984'ed.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

Just because Wikipedia says something doesn't make it false. It IS the definition of socialism. When you have your own carefully tailored definition that nobody else uses...you think maybe you're in the wrong here?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

So the actual definition of the word "socialism" is known worldwide by many peoples in many languages, and in English by anyone who has received schooling in economics before the millenium.

This is the correct and accepted definition of socialism: https://philosophyterms.com/socialism/

However, many online dictionaries as well as shillypedia have started peddling the notion that it means "the state taking ownership of the means of economic production". Which, if you know anything, is totalitarian communism and not socialism at all. Right? OK let's continue...

Here's the shittypedia page with the false and wrong definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Randomly, the first site that popped up for me in my search engine, which happens to have the same wrong definition: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/socialism?s=t

But lastly and most importantly, a google auto-translation of the French Wikipedia page on socialism, into English: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ffr.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSocialisme

Now it seems obvious to me that (((somebody))) is trying to change the accepted meaning of the term in order to further (((their))) agenda.

I believe the target of this psyop is the USA. Radicalizing US citizens against "socialism" by its false definition seems to be in (((their))) interest.

But either way it's a glaring example of widespread, and DEEP Orwellian disinformation TODAY.

Let's talk.

[–]black_hole_son 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Cool story bro. Must be nice to make up your own facts.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

What do you mean. This is 100% factual. Did you even bother to read. :-(

I know it's a hard pill to swallow when you've been lied to about something as fundamental as language. But you're better off knowing than being ignorant of it, don't you think?

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

I've had this "that's not real socialism!" argument so many times I can't even

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Dude. The communists. THEY are the ones saying "we are the REAL socialists" and you believe them. COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA. Are you proud of it? Being fooled by commies?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Socialism is basically "a set of regulations in a capitalist economy to prevent its excesses" such as billionaires getting ever richer off the backs of ordinary workers.

It goes COUNTER to wealth redistribution and it NEEDS a capitalist economy to even EXIST.

Can your tiny mind process even such basic information well enough to realize that socialism is almost perfectly opposed to communism?

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Yes! That's the false definition! Even wikipedia in every other language has the right definition. Use google translate and look at the page as it is written in any other language! I looked at the French one and it has the correct one. You will see that they are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT!!!

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Really? I've never heard this before.

Let's see a link, so others can weigh in.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Easy, thanks for making a reasonable and well thought-out inquiry about this instead of calling me a communist, which I DEFINITELY am not!

So the actual definition of the word "socialism" is known worldwide by many peoples in many languages, and in English by anyone who has received schooling in economics before the millenium.

This is the correct and accepted definition of socialism: https://philosophyterms.com/socialism/

However, many online dictionaries as well as shillypedia have started peddling the notion that it means "the state taking ownership of the means of economic production". Which, if you know anything, is totalitarian communism and not socialism at all. Right? OK let's continue...

Here's the shittypedia page with the false and wrong definition: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socialism

Randomly, the first site that popped up for me in my search engine, which happens to have the same wrong definition: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/socialism?s=t

But lastly and most importantly, a google auto-translation of the French Wikipedia page on socialism, into English: https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=fr&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Ffr.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FSocialisme

This again has the correct definition, the same, but using different wording, as found on philosophyterms.com

Now it seems obvious to me that (((somebody))) is trying to change the accepted meaning of the term in order to further (((their))) agenda.

I believe the target of this psyop is the USA. Radicalizing US citizens against "socialism" by its false definition seems to be in (((their))) interest.

But either way it's a glaring example of widespread, and DEEP Orwellian disinformation TODAY.

Thank you for your time.

[–]black_hole_son 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Do you think if you copy/paste your bullshit enough times it becomes right?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Just trying to inform people about this evil orwellian horror!