SOCIALISM: What is it? Online dictionaries give a completely new and different meaning to the word!

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[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (20 children)

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Socialism is government control of the means of production.

Roads are not socialism. Buses are not socialism. These are desperate attempts by socialists to link their ugly ideology to something successful that people like. Scandinavia is not socialism. This was something that was rebuked by Denmark's PM himself.

Socialism has failed every single time it's been tried. Every single time. Just look at Venezuela if you need a refresher course in what socialism does to a country. "But Venezuela's not socialist!" <facepalm.jpg>

Nicolas Maduro of Venezuela publicly called Bernie Sanders "our revolutionary friend" and praised his candidacy. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-venezuela-usa/venezuelas-maduro-rooting-for-revolutionary-friend-sanders-in-u-s-campaign-idUSKCN0YN32Q

Tourists flock not to the beaches, but the slums to see '21st-century socialism' https://www.theguardian.com/world/2007/jan/15/venezuela.rorycarroll

From a trickle a few years ago there are now thousands, travelling individually and on package tours, exploring a leftwing mecca which promises to build social justice in the form of "21st century socialism".

Jeremy Corbyn said: "Chavez ... showed us that there is a different, and a better way of doing things. It's called socialism". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSIQAKpaR20

Karl Marx was resurrected with nantotechnology and DNA sequencing and came to America. He was shown Tesla factories, advanced hospitals, modern cities, etc. Finally, he requested to be allowed to make a speech on all TV channels. The mainstream media hesitated as they were afraid he might say something they wouldn't approve. Marx promised he would say only one sentence. Under this condition, they agreed. Karl Marx uttered the following sentence: "Workers of all countries, forgive me."

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

No, it is not. That is a co-opted definition of socialism in order to radicalize a population. YOU.

YOU believe a definition of socialism that is untrue, that only a very few people in the world believe because of Orwellian LANGUAGE CHANGING shenanigans that have happened recently that you have fallen for.

I fully understand that "roads are not (what you believe is) socialism". The problem is your belief is very wrong, and that belief is dangerous.

I am FAR from a Marxist, or a "socialist" in the definition that you believe that word means, which is TOTALITARIAN COMMUNISM and is VERY FAR REMOVED from what socialism actually is.

AGAIN: (((somebody))) has been playing with the English language and has made SOME PEOPLE (you) believe that the word means something entirely different from what it does! Read the initial post again! Stop raging and start REASONING. With your BRAIN if you have one.

I'm not making this up. At least 95% of the world's population understand the word as meaning what I say it does. At least 95% of the world's population understand that what you believe is "socialism" is in fact TOTALITARIAN COMMUNISM. English. LEARN IT.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (17 children)

Uh, it's what socialists stated themselves.

Come on, this "that's not TRUE socialism" argument is tiresome. Maybe if socialism had some successes it could point to, we could talk. But you're standing atop a mountain of skulls and saying let's try it again. No.

Implement socialism in your life. Show us it works. Then get back to us.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It's what COMMIES said. You are basically repeating COMMUNIST PROPAGANDA at me and calling me a Marxist. No sense of irony at all?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Dude. Are you doing this on purpose? You're NOT UNDERSTANDING WHAT I AM SAYING.

I'm not saying "this is not true socialism". I couldn't care less what is "true" or "untrue" socialism as it is or isn't applied in policy worldwide. At least for the sake of this post.

I am talking about LANGUAGE. ENGLISH. WORDS have MEANING. Which is how we COMMUNICATE.

BRB I'll go chocolate.

If I use the word "chocolate" every time I need to say "poop" are you going to understand me? Nope. You won't.

The "socialism" you think of is NOT WHAT THE WORD MEANS. Somebody's been editing dictionaries to change the meaning. You are part of a small fraction of the world's population that is being preyed on through the changing of language.

I'm not talking about policy, politics, economics, geopolitics here. BUT LANGUAGE.

You are using "chocolate" as meaning "poop" whereas most of us like to eat chocolate but not poop. So if you say "eat chocolate", we say, "yeah, good idea, thanks for your kind wishes." And you go "WTF these people are freaking insane."

Because somebody is destroying the language in your "region" of the 'Net and changing dictionaries, and so on. Don't you see the very orwellian, evil, dangerous scheme that's happening?

You need to learn that chocolate does not come from anuses.

There may well be other instances of words getting edited from the language to seem to mean what they don't mean. This is extremely important! Don't you see?

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Horrux, it's fake news man. /s. Somebody changed the definition, and I think that somebody was a Zionist.

I found it absolutely hilarious when Trump stood up to address to congress stating that socialism will never happen here in America. Everyone in congress stood up, including all democrats applauding this Zionist as if a hero. His address was filled with lies and generalizations. A welfare economy with good benefits and socialistic tendencies would be how the bankers treat the rich as opposed to the poor. But the lower classes cannot have any of that. We must stay divided and bow down to our emperors.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Sort of like the Scofield bible and how Zionists changed the protestant bibles. They'll try to manipulate whatever they can to trick people into fronting their agenda.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

But zionism is nothing but political judaism.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Is it? Why do many orthodox Jews and other Jews within the diaspora despise Zionism?

Of course, a vital question worth asking is: Are atheistical Jews really Jews? If JEWISHNESS is just Religion of the old covenant, then who then is promoting Zionism?

Does the old testement have the answers? One can read various verses where "Jews" of that time were pillaging towns. But did they, from their God, promote the political form of Zionism, or in a covert form, promote an Israeli ethnostate for Jews?

If they did not during biblical times, then that explains some sects of ultra-Orthodox Jews who are against modern Zionism presently.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

But DO THEY? Or do they just SAY they do? These "people" lie more than they breathe. Judaism has nothing to do with the old testament which is mostly not about jews at all. Only a tiny fraction of that book is about them, and certainly not enough for it to qualify as a holy book of their religion. They've appropriated themselves that book, stating it's all about them, to us. But it really isn't.

The Talmud is the (un-)holy book of Judaism. It is also much more recent than the old testament.

As for atheistical jews, of course they are jews. The demon possession is passed through DNA, not which kind of rites they monkey out, although I do believe their traditional circumcision ceremony is one way in which those entities truly settle in them. Jews will state this openly: to be a jew is a racial thing. Religion is just an excuse and a useful tool for confusing the goy.

The old covenant has nothing to do with jews since the Abrahamic blessing has not been passed to those humanoids. Jews are god's forsaken.

And to boil zionism down to simply the Israeli ethnostate is disigenuous: the stated goal is to build the 3rd temple, declare themselves masters of the world, and enslave all of mankind, ruling us as cattle from their world government seat in Jerusalem. That is A HELL OF A LOT MORE than a jew ethnostate. Yes, it's part of it, but only one of the many steps. Such a long term plan needed to be laid out long beforehand, as evidenced by the protocols of the elders of zion.

So zionism 500 years ago was hugely different in its application from what it means today and what it will mean once these murdering parasites are done with their genocide of the palestinians and other minorities. But it's also all one thing, just different steps that look like they're not even related. Until you see the big picture.

If you think for JUST ONE SECOND that you can possibly know what these "people" think or don't think, what they stand for or against, you don't know them. They will slaughter whole families of their own just to give us the illusion that they are divided among themselves, if their plan requires it. And they will willingly serve, knowing it's for their "holy plan".

A goy will not know anything. Their religion is very clear: lying to us, befuddling us, confusing us, is BEING VIRTUOUS to them.

And if you're one of them, then there is nothing you can say or write that can be trusted, regardless of whether such an individual might believe they are being forthcoming and honest. Hitler's work on the question is clear: the jew doesn't even understand the perfidy of his jewishness.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

...to be a jew is a racial thing. Religion is just an excuse and a useful tool for confusing the goy.

As a Christian, however, Yeshua was a "Jew", or at least was taught by various rabbis only to later show their hypocrisy and pointless oral traditions.

When Yeshua states:

The slander of those who say that they are Jews and are not, but are a symagouge of satan," this imples that someone is impersonating Jews.

The mentioning of synagogue imples that they are religious as well, no? That these Jews, that Yeshua was referring to frequented thr symagouge. But they are not Jews, though theu say they are!

Who were Yeshua's followers? Many were Jews, who followed "The Way," which is the fulfillment that many Jews rejected as did non-Jews.

The Chabad Lubavitch sect has plenty of power in Russia, Israel and the US. They are religious and Zionistic.

My whole take on this is that attacking Jews does a disservice to the common Jew that might have simply followed the old covenant only to seek out Christ.

I truly do not believe atheistical Jews are Jewishish. I believe Judaism and Jewishness is a religion. Those who persecuted Jews used race to catagorize for easier persecution. That only bolstered Jewish nationalism and racial pride when beforehand Judaism was simply seen as a religion.

So, thus, if we deny these atheistical Jews as not simply apostates but non-Jew then that leaves us with the religious ones. Yeshua declared that they claim to be Jews, meaning a Jew in its true God fearing faith will conform to rightful living, and would thus follow Yeshua's instructions, and the apostate ones who are neither Jew nor of God but of Satan.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jesus was very probably not a jew at all. He was born in the Galilee, from Galilean parents. But the Galilee, while being part of the overall jewish realm, had been recently populated by IMMIGRANTS from Assyria. Most likely, Jesus was genetically Assyrian, and living in a jewish land. Of course the jews would claim this great man was one of theirs. It's free power. Especially the "false jew" Pharisee, of the "synagogue of Satan".

The Galilee being part of jewish lands, had the official religion of the jews and also its legal system was also rooted in their religion. It is thus not surprising that law abiding citizens would go to the synagogues. It is recorded that Galileans were especially light on their practice of the religion however.

Note however that the Talmud, the main text used by "modern" judaism, did not even exist back then. It came at least a couple centuries after Jesus, making Judaism, in its current form, a more recent religion than Christianity.

If you consider whatever religion they were following back in the days of Jesus, as "judaism" and that anybody who follows that religion is "a jew" then yes obviously Jesus' followers were jews and so was Jesus. But that is not right, since the jews are a RACIAL group, given that they are technically the descendants of Judah. Jesus most likely has no such ancestry, not even on his mother's side. You can "believe" whatever you want, it remains a FACT that "jew" means "descended from Judah". It's not a religion.

You want to believe it's not racial when the very definition of the term IS racial, fine. But denial of reality does not help understanding reality. Why isn't it the jews themselves who played the religion card when they got thrown out for being troublemakers?

You have to understand that Jesus was living in a jewish land, that had a jewish law and a "jewish" religion about which we know very little. So in that context it makes sense to say "pretend to be jews but are from the synagogue of Satan" to mean, beware these people, they are not what they say they are. Indeed the "synagogue of Satan" invented the Talmud and that's what "jews" of today are. They're mostly "false jews" but what does that matter. Where are the (other? real?) descendants of Judah? Why would we need to care? Those who call themselves jews today are demonspawn, that's all we need to know.

[–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Socialism has always meant government control of the means of production. Go look in older books.

Are buses and roads socialism? If you think so, you're the one with the wrong definition.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Nope. Wrong. I've read those old books, bro.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

What is your take on the French socialist Proudhon?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is a very broad question. Mutualism and co-operating ownership is of course a wonderful idea, but one that only works in the realm of ideas: co-ops are like group homework in school: there's always somebody doing 80% of the work and the rest are just happy to let others go at it and reap the rewards without doing any work.

But yeah as a socialist I think he is a good representation of the spirit of the ideology. And he's an anarchist, so everybody who conflates socialism with totalitarian communism could benefit from knowing about his ideas. Definitely one of the originals.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So, what is your take on Bolshevism, perpetuated by apostate Jews and atheists, whilst it neing funded by crony-capitalists and bankers in the US?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

it's all one big scam. The central banks represent the jews' taking ownership of everything we used to own, including the means of production.

Meanwhile, they financed and grew an incredible industrial power (the USA) to become their military machine. Using this bully, they managed to get the dollar to be the world reserve currency, which means the USA benefits from an implicit tax on all international trade. This represents a simply humongous subsidy of the entire planet in favor of the USA. This is used to cultivate ignorance and the worst kind of idiotic patriotism, which then also feeds troops to the war machine, which can keep terrorizing and sacking the planet on behalf of its jew masters.

With the current Covid financial crisis, it is fairly easy to see that the USA is on the verge of becoming a stealthily communist regime, what with the treasury department being "forced" to bail out (read buy out) all the failing big banks, or their vanishing-value assets, the stock market, once reality sets the stock market straight.

Then you have a central bank that basically owns the people, and a government that owns the means of production. A perfect communist paradigm. Bolsheviks' wet dream.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Certainly, Frankfurt Jews were part and parcel of the establishment of the FED as were Swiss Jews like Seligman to income tax. Loeb, Schiff, Warburg, Lehman, Rothschild and Seligman all intermarried. Research Seligman, and see what kind of Jews these bankers were? What sects did they belong to?

To say it is just Jews is wrong. It is people willingly advocating for a system based on comfort and convenience, only to mortage debt to unborn generations. And what about all the Freemasons involved in barious plots and in banking and usury. Surely not all of them were Jewish.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Jews' modus operandi is very simple: corrupt to destroy. Yes, they enroll useful idiots whom they are able to corrupt. Trump is not a jew but he's obviously doing his damnedest to be their strongest supporter even though they obviously only destroy. It does not matter why. The root of the problem is clear.

Are there degenerates outside of jews? Of course there are. But who spreads the degeneracy around? Jews! I'm not advocating genocide here. Only spelling out the root of all evil. The "synagogue of satan" if you will.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Marxism is simply any analysis of capitalism. That's sort of it. But certainly some bad people will front all of these isms.