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[–]EndlessSunflowers[S] 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (8 children)

Mind Control has always been an interest of shady leadership & intelligence agencies

"Operation Paperclip" was a SECRET United States intelligence program
in which more than 1,600 German scientists, engineers, and technicians
were taken from Nazi Germany to the U.S. for government employment

[–]SeethingPeasant 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes but that was 1945 or 1946, after the war. This picture is clearly from Germany around that period but some reddit lefty thinks it's trolling to post this as America.

[–]chickenz 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

..it's time to put down the meth pipe..

[–]David_Allen_Cope1 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

But nothing he said was untrue. Operation paperclip happened. It's not a conspiracy theory.

[–]JasonCarswell 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

Edward, aka chickenz, was talking to himself.
He goes nuts in chat sometimes.
Not method acting.
Likely on meth.

[–]David_Allen_Cope1 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Oh. Well that's pretty based. It also explains a lot.

[–]chickenz 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, and meth addicts are the master's of unraveling conspiracies.

I literally lived with them for three solid years.

They sit around all day and ponder various conspiracies... All of which they can and will thoroughly fact check.

[–]SeethingPeasant 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

So methheads are smarter than the left? Over 50% of the left have mental illness. Which does explain why they are so easily manipulated into believe the cult idealogy of the left. An idealogy that is easily debunked just by a quick dive into the facts. In fact, a ton of people leave the left because they finally go to double check their idealogy and accidently disprove everything they believe. The left always goes right, the right never goes left. And that's a statistical fact. But you are on the left, facts are like holy water to demons.

[–]Brewdabier 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

The good old bellamy salute, Both the Pledge and its salute originated in 1892 and used in America. Where Hitler copied it.

[–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

pretty sure people have been saluting with hands raised since antiquity tho

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

This is good.

[–]Airbus320 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

[–]Dunwidit 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Why do we have children who do not understand what it is they're doing pledging their allegiance to some cloth....?

[–]BISH 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

Pledging allegiance to a flag, is it's own psyop.

The original allegiance was to God, who granted Americans freedom, and therefore was owed the allegiance and duty of the state citizens.

If an elected govt overreached, then it was the duty of the citizens to water the tree of liberty with the blood of tyrants.

Today's citizens are 14th amendment federal citizens. They owe allegiance to a flag, and the DC corporation. They live under man-made laws, and owe allegiance to a corporate govt/flag.

The old laws still exist. The original status with God given rights still exists, and it's honored by the govt.

It's been renamed a 'national'.

The 'national' status is mentioned in the first paragraph of the first page of every US passport "citizen/national". It is hidden in plain sight.

If you're a citizen, born or naturalized, then you are eligible.

ESF. Reclaim your birthright.

[–]Musky 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

The original allegiance was to God, who granted Americans freedom, and therefore was owed the allegiance and duty of the state citizens.

The original pledge: I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

No God in sight.

[–]SeethingPeasant 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Unfortunately this country needs Jesus more than ever. The moral compass is gone and the new religion is selfishness.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Jesus is just more authoritarian nonsense - but better than consumer culture.

We need DIY culture. Do it yourself and sustainable self-reliance. Derive meaning from the freedom to find your own purpose, fulfillment, and long lasting joy in life rather than ephemeral happiness bought by serving the ruling class and being their debt slave.

[–]Musky 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Amen.

[–]BISH 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I pledge allegiance to my Flag and the Republic for which it stands, one nation, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all.

No God in sight.

Surely, you're familiar with this?

We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed

Endowed by the Creator. God-given.

Edit: If you get your rights from a man, then your rights are privileges.

[–]catfishrising 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

But "under God" was never really about God. It's just an old-timey phrase that means "God willing" or "hopefully". It's clear in the original context, the Gettysburg address:

It is rather for us to be here dedicated to the great task remaining before us—that from these honored dead we take increased devotion to that cause for which they gave the last full measure of devotion—that we here highly resolve that these dead shall not have died in vain—that this nation, under God, shall have a new birth of freedom—and that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth.

So the way it was crammed into the pledge makes no sense.

[–]BISH 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It wasn't crammed in.

Kings drive their authority to rule from God.

This nation was created with free people who owed their rights to no man.
God given inalienable rights.
The first free society since the Roman republic.

[–]iamonlyoneman 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

*derive

[–]BISH 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yep. That.

[–]catfishrising 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

God was NOT mentioned at all in Francis Bellamy's original version.

[–]BISH 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Source?

Edit. The version I cited is better.

[–]catfishrising 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

[–]BISH 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My source I cited was the preamble to the declaration of independence.

https://www.freedomworks.org/we-hold-these-truths-to-be-self-evident/

The creator is specifically mentioned.

The pledge to the flag is propaganda.

[–]catfishrising 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Literally a marketing ploy to sell flags to schools.

[–]IkeConn 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They changed the Bellamy Salute to hand over heart after the Hitler salute.

[–]hfxB0oyA 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now they pledge allegiance to the fag.