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[–]HongKongPhooey 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

An Israelite of any sort from 2000 years ago wouldn't have been any more white than a jew

[–]Dragonerne[S] 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

People of the Levant were closer to modern Europeans genetically than to the modern middle east, they were also depicted as whites on mosaics etc.

[–]HongKongPhooey 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

People of the Levant were closer to modern Europeans genetically than to the modern middle east

You realize that group includes Jews who you just said are not white. I said they aren't any whiter than Jews

[–]Mastermustard03 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Christianity is a dead end for Europeans. I hate the idea of our People being bound to an invasive semitic desert religion so I don't really have a dog in this fight. However, ancient jews and modern jews don't share any dna so his point ain't wrong necessarily.

[–]HongKongPhooey 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

However, ancient jews and modern jews don't share any dna so his point ain't wrong necessarily.

I'm not sure where you would get an idea like this

Ashkenazi, Mizrahi and Sephardic Jews all share about half their DNA originating from these ancient Jews

A 2020 study on remains from Bronze Age southern Levantine (Canaanite) populations found evidence of large scale migration from the Zagros or Caucasus into the southern Levant by the Bronze Age and increasing over time (resulting in a Canaanite population descended from both those migrants and earlier Neolithic Levantine peoples). The results were found to be consistent with several Jewish groups (including Mizrahi, Ashkenazi, and Sephardic Moroccan Jews) and non-Jewish Arabic-speaking Levantine populations (such as Lebanese, Druze, Palestinians, and Syrians) deriving about half or more of their ancestry from populations related to those from the Bronze Age Levant and Chalcolithic Zagros. The study modeled the aforementioned groups as having ancestry from both ancient populations.[25][26]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews

[–]Dragonerne[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Canaanite

Exactly, they're edomites

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nah.

[–]Dragonerne[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

You realize that group includes Jews who you just said are not white.

Wrong

[–]HongKongPhooey 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

According to geneticist Doron Behar and colleagues (2010), this is "consistent with a historical formulation of the Jewish people as descending from ancient Hebrew and Israelites of the Levant" and "the dispersion of the people of ancient Israel throughout the Old World".[4][5]

A 2020 study on remains from Bronze Age southern Levantine (Canaanite) populations found evidence of large scale migration from the Zagros or Caucasus into the southern Levant by the Bronze Age and increasing over time (resulting in a Canaanite population descended from both those migrants and earlier Neolithic Levantine peoples). The results were found to be consistent with several Jewish groups (including Mizrahi, Ashkenazi, and Sephardic Moroccan Jews) and non-Jewish Arabic-speaking Levantine populations (such as Lebanese, Druze, Palestinians, and Syrians) deriving about half or more of their ancestry from populations related to those from the Bronze Age Levant and Chalcolithic Zagros. The study modeled the aforementioned groups as having ancestry from both ancient populations.[25][26]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genetic_studies_on_Jews

[–]Dragonerne[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Yes, modern jews are mongrels. Mixed edomites.

They are not whites like the Israelites

[–]HongKongPhooey 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Yes, modern jews are mongrels. Mixed edomites.

They are not whites like the Israelites

Mixed mongrels, sure, but this doesn't makes sense. Take the Ashkenazi Jews, roughly half their DNA is from the same Levant Middle Eastern group you consider white, and the other half is the Southern Europeans they mixed with when they migrated to that region, who are also white. This is why they can have blue eyes or even be gingers

You can't have it both ways. Either the Jews are non-white, and so are the Syrians and other Levant groups (you said yourself they are 'closer' to whites than they are to arabs, not that they ARE white), or they are both white by virtue of the close enough principle you cited.

I think it's a gray enough area, I'd accept either theory as reasonable, but you aren't being consistent in applying the criteria

[–]Dragonerne[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

This is why they can have blue eyes or even be gingers

Wrong. Israelites were blue eyed and gingers and white skinned, even as far back as 6000 years ago.

You can't have it both ways. Either the Jews are non-white, and so are the Syrians and other Levant groups (you said yourself they are 'closer' to whites than they are to arabs, not that they ARE white), or they are both white by virtue of the close enough principle you cited

Yes, ancient syrians were white as well.

roughly half their DNA is from the same Levant Middle Eastern group you consider white

No, they are literally not

Modern Jews and Arabs are basically the same genetically.

[–]HongKongPhooey 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Modern Jews and Arabs are basically the same genetically.

I don't think you can provide a citation of any reputable source to support this claim. Only the Mizrahi Jews have evidence of Arabic ancestry, because they migrated to Arabic regions and mixed with those people. Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews do not have Arabic ancestry. There are theories that are not well accepted that the Jews have Khazar origins, but these are not Arabs either, they are Turkish peoples

[–]H3v8 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Exactly, there were many clusters of Greek populations (and still exist till today).

[–]chickenz 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

I want to suggest that this whole "we hate Jews" thing really sorta seems to bleed over into that "dragging the conversation down" pyramid thingy.

Sometimes it seems like pretty much everything that gets put on the table here there will be someone that will find a way to blame it on Jewish people.

I am a bit surprised that nobody has blame the Jews for the hurricane in Florida.

[–]Dragonerne[S] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I am a bit surprised that nobody has blame the Jews for the hurricane in Florida.

https://saidit.net/s/pics/comments/9tlv/desantis_of_florida_gets_punished_by_the_jews/

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No, I think that's still an argument even if it's annoying. Dragging down the pyramid of debate would be more like calling everyone a kike just as an ad-hominem.

Check this out: https://saidit.net/static/PyramidDebate.jpg

Apparently even making an argument with no evidence is high on the pyramid. It's mostly name-calling assholes who drag it down.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (10 children)

The bible literally lists Jesus's ancestry.

If you had actually read it you'd know that and not be taken in by bullshit so easily.

[–]Dragonerne[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The infographic actually deals with your argument so if you had read it, you would know how stupid you sound

[–]Mastermustard03 1 insightful - 4 fun1 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 4 fun -  (6 children)

I heard Jesus was a black lesbian. I think the next big Christian film should depict Jesus as such. Cuckservatives will love that shit, they're all about BBC and black unemployment rates.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (5 children)

Well he certainly wasn't a cis man, he had long hair and wore a dress.

[–]Jesus 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Okay Jew.

[–]Airbus320 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Yees, finally you called jet199 a jew, I am not alone

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

This is more dragging down the pyramid of debate.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's a Jew. Hence, his blasphemy against Christ.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's literally the trans logic right now

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Yeah, NOT A JEW.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

It lists his ancestry twice and they are not the same. And ancient versions of both of those books were missing it.

He was most likely Jewish though, assuming he was actually incarnate in the flesh.

[–]FuckYourMom 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The photo does not show up clearly because I am in an iPhone.

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

He was "THE SON OF GOD." It doesn't matter that he was white, he wasn't nordic, and a darker equator white.

What is more than true is that Jesus was NOT A JEW, and did not preach rabbinic Judaism (Pharisaism).

[–]Dragonerne[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You can say that it doesn't matter that he was white, but he was white.

[–]Jesus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Sure, but skin color doesn't matter when only thru Him can we have a relationship with God. The cross is what opens the cube, and sets us free. Blacks who have strong relationship with Christ are unfazed by communist propaganda and Jewish subversion as Catholic Louis Marschalko once wrote. But take Christ away, pump them endlessly with nihilism and anti-white propaganda and you get a wrecking ball for Bolshevism.

[–]Dragonerne[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Sure, but skin color doesn't matter

Yes it does. Jesus was White

[–]Jesus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Any people, white or black can follow Christ. The naturalist racialism of master race Judaism or National Socialism is antithetic to Christ, that does not mean, however, that we should marry outside of our race.

Traditional Catholicism is the true religion. Funny, that I have documentable proof that the founder of national socialism, Rosenberg, was 1/2 Jewish and Hitler destroyed Churches in Poland and simultaneously gave millions to Britain to rebuild several Synagogues.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I'm not sure what skin color has to do with this. The image you posted is all about the Orthodox Jewish religion. It even affirms that he was Judean.

[–]Dragonerne[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Judean isn't jewish

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

But you don't seem to understand that since you constrast Jewish with white.

[–]Dragonerne[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Because Judeans are white, jews are not

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Jews are a religion, not a race.

[–]Dragonerne[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Wrong