The "liberal world order" in one photo.

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[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Not identical.

The cross-piece of a wolfsangel is very shorter than the books, whereas in the "NI" of the old Azov Battalion, it's longer than the hooks. The N shape on the wolfsangel is in mirror compared to the NI of azov, and the corners aren't the same height as the stems of an N.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (11 children)

Oh for fucks sake.

It's not a swastika, it's a Buddhist good luck symbol!

That's a lie too.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I've seen them in Buddhist temples. I suspect that they don't reference the third Reich.

But you're changing the subject. I agree that the NI was probably designed to look a lot like the wolfsangel in mirror. (And this is why they don't use it any more). All I'm saying is that it's not identical. And they're not.

That's not true of the bhuddist symbol. (There are pre-nazi Christian uses of the swastika too, and that's not independent of the Christianity of nazi germany)

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

You are just deliberately wasting everyone's time. The Azovs are Nazis, end of story. From the wolfsangel to the black sun to the Hitler salutes. Nazis.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

The azov battalion had white supremacists amongst the founders.

But they don't have influence since they became part of the national guard.

And they've dropped the NI, and the black sun. I'm not aware that they ever did hitler salutes.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Stop defending Nazis.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

If you think that stating facts is defending Nazis, your need to sit down quietly for a bit, and come back when you've got some perspective.

[–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Impact vs. intent. The impact of your words is to defend Nazis. Not neo-Nazis, not spelling Nazis, not feminazis, but actual Nazis.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

1) The Third Reich ended in 1945. Similar organizations since then are neo-Nazis, not Nazis.
2) The Azov regiment is not political, despite that some of their rank and file are from the Azov Battalion.
3) The Azov regiment is part of the Ukraine National Guard. Ukraine elected a president with a Jewish background, who had lost family in the holocaust. They are very much not neo-Nazis.
4) You're looking kind of Russian propagandaish. "ooh look, some Nazis I just made up" is not a valid pretext for the annexation of a country, nor the vicious suppression of its people.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You can trace a direct line from the Azov battalion to Ukraine SS regiments during WWII.

Calling anyone who calls out the Ukraine Nazis "russian propaganda" is disinformation. Stop spreading disinformation.