The "liberal world order" in one photo.

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[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (19 children)

The Azov Battalion hasn't existed since late 2014.

There is an Azov regiment of the National Guard of Ukraine. The regiment has no political affiliation and has recently abandoned the insignia of the Azov battalion, including the black sun and the thing that was claimed to be a stylised "NI" but that looked an awful lot like a wolfsangel in mirror.

[–]Chipit[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (18 children)

LOL this is literally propaganda. Reddit brain here. That isn't an "NI", it's called a wolfsangel and was a Nazi regiment symbol during WWII.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (17 children)

As I made clear it does look a lot like it.

I'm sure the similarity is neither accidental nor unrelated to why they don't use it now.

However, Azov always claimed that it represents the “idea of the nation,” and which unites the letters “I” and “N” in old cyrillic script. And the cross-piece of a wolfsangel is very short, because it's not functional, just where the chain used to be attached. Whereas in the "NI" of the old Azov Battalion, it's longer than the hooks.

[–]Chipit[S] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (16 children)

It's not an NI it's a Nazi symbol. Not even neo-Nazi, it's actual Nazi.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

Not exactly. But the black sun is.

[–]Chipit[S] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (14 children)

Not exactly.

Yes exactly. The wolfsangel is from the 2nd SS Panzer Division "Das Reich" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_SS_Panzer_Division_Das_Reich

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

Not identical.

The cross-piece of a wolfsangel is very shorter than the books, whereas in the "NI" of the old Azov Battalion, it's longer than the hooks. The N shape on the wolfsangel is in mirror compared to the NI of azov, and the corners aren't the same height as the stems of an N.

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (12 children)

Oh for fucks sake.

It's not a swastika, it's a Buddhist good luck symbol!

That's a lie too.

[–]JasonCarswell 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

TIL. Now I have to repaint my dozen or more Nazi Buddhas.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

I've seen them in Buddhist temples. I suspect that they don't reference the third Reich.

But you're changing the subject. I agree that the NI was probably designed to look a lot like the wolfsangel in mirror. (And this is why they don't use it any more). All I'm saying is that it's not identical. And they're not.

That's not true of the bhuddist symbol. (There are pre-nazi Christian uses of the swastika too, and that's not independent of the Christianity of nazi germany)

[–]Chipit[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

You are just deliberately wasting everyone's time. The Azovs are Nazis, end of story. From the wolfsangel to the black sun to the Hitler salutes. Nazis.