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    [–]Chipit 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (11 children)

    Nah. As an American, nobody really cares. It's not that we dislike you. It's that we just don't care. The opposite of love isn't hate. The opposite of love is indifference.

    Most Europeans are not properly educated on how much they depend on the US. The US is almost exclusively depicted in a negative way and blamed for stuff, while the US is almost never depicted in a positive way and given its due credit. A lot of Europeans directly link their view of their own individual countries and the EU/Europe as a whole to their view of the US as a point of contrast. Because they see things along those lines, and because they want to depict themselves as being superior to the US, they must as a matter of necessity see the US in an unrealistically negative way. Acknowledging that the EU is dependent on the US doesn't help the cause. There are definitely leaders in Europe who are aware of how much Europe depends on the US for defense, but this fact is not in anyway conducive to the larger political agenda and geopolitical outlook in Europe which is all about integration and European unity. In fact, support for the EU is very closely related to anti-Americanism. On reddit you'll see a lot of Europeans admit very openly that they support the EU because they see it as a rival to the US.

    A lot of hate Europeans have for the US is not only a product of their ignorance of their dependence on the US, it's also because of their dependence on the US. Europeans take the US for granted and many of those that are aware of their dependence on the US still hate the US because playing second fiddle to the US stings their pride.

    hey i'm from a country you need to zoom in to notice, with population of few million, and I know all about USA but ignorant Americans dont know anything about me!

    It's like getting offended Drake doesn't know you even though you know him.

    [–]black_hole_son 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    I think the feeling of indifference is pretty mutual. Many Europeans look down on America because it is a country going backwards both socially and economically. The know America's time as world leader is coming to an end and are preparing as such.

    [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    Lol no. Europeans care deeply what America thinks. Why else do you obsess over our every move? You've got domestic news in Michigan making the front page in Europe. Going backwards? How would you even have that opinion unless you obsessively paid attention to American domestic affairs? A lot of what you hate is fake news. A major European magazine got caught in a pack of obvious lies going back years, and all the lies were designed to make you hate us.

    Looking down on Americans is nothing new and didn't start with Trump. I remember the massive protests against Reagan and the demands that NATO disband. Sneering contempt goes all the way back before the Revolution.

    The end of world leadership can't come fast enough. It has been an utter disaster for the American people as our government has spent trillions abroad while neglecting us at home. On the other hand, without free American security, Europe is screwed. How are you going to pay for your massively expensive welfare states and a military at the same time? There's going to be riots when the cutbacks start.

    Good luck keeping wars from breaking out without the Americans around to impose peace. Remember, you demanded we stop.

    [–]black_hole_son 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    Do you have a TL;DR version.....oh don't bother I will just assume your post was filled with paranoia, half truths and outright lies.

    [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Which part of is was a lie? Quote sentences directly. Paranoia? Nobody is irrationally afraid of Europe. You'd have to have a military for someone to be afraid of you.

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      [–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

      Remember, Americans are ignorant and stupid, right? Thus how are they supposed to know where all these countries are on a map? Much less what they're known for?

      I mean, "Buffer Zone"? That requires rather a high knowledge of geopolitics to know that the US supports the area to block the Germans from linking up with the Russians. How are Americans supposed to know that? They can't even find their own country on a map and they're supposed to be understand deep political analysis? Who's supposed to know that Latin America came from Spain? I don't even know what "crisis" is supposed to mean.

      It's just a crude, ugly stereotype of Americans, from people who despise us. The truth is, we don't care enough to even form opinions of different European regions. Name the latest European movie that anyone watched. The latest European rock star anyone ever heard of. The latest European tech startup that everyone is crazy about. I can't and neither can you.

      It seems like the European countries are like America's crazy girlfriend. Saying how we always make things worse and that one day another big strong country is going to come along and sweep them off their feet. One day we get sick of it. We say we need some space and it's not you, it's us. We just need some time to work on ourself. Suddenly crazy gf countries start crying about how they can't live without us... But we know now. We were just a sugar daddy all along.

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        [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

        Great way to dodge out of making a reply to the points I made, which are unreplyable. Usually at this point I get reminded of slavery or racism, both of which Europeans never had. Or you could try Iraq. Either way, a weak non-response.

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          [–]Chipit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          And the best part is, with America withdrawing and Europe not having an idiot to pay for its defense, that you demanded this. Screamed for it. And you're going to get it, good and hard.

          [–]happysmash27 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          Kinda, but I have some different associations myself. Switzerland, for example, I also associate with neutrality and privacy laws, and Scandanavia I associate with Democratic Socialism and people being very happy more than I associate it with "Socialist Union". Belgium should probably have an association with waffles, and Spain could be labeled as "Spanish-speaking but not in Latin America". Italy is more associated with Rome and Venice than this "Godfathers" thing for me. Turkey is also a bit dictatorial, and Germany has cheap college. Other associations I have are probably more common in other cultures/subcultures I participate in than the USA itself.

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          lol

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Globalists want to split the EU and US after decades of alliance. Both areas are undergoing massive changes. The EU broght in migrants that also brought in a small percentage of criminals. Rapes and violent attacks are up. The US is fighting itself over which extreme poltical view is the best one, instead of compromising to help the people that need help. Trump is trying to lower the cost of manufacturing in the US in order to being jobs back. Increasing worker hazards is not an acceptable way of doing this. The two parties need to work togther. The EU at last has shown that it can apply compromises that please no one, but let them move on into the future. As an American, I beleive that the two major political parties are responsible for the damage currently being done. Few moderates are running for office at a time when more middle of the road thinking is needed, along with a return to compromising to move ahead.