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Planned Obsolescence: The case for designing services with limited shelf life
submitted 4 years ago by [deleted] from i.imgur.com
[–]useless_aether 5 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 4 fun - 4 years ago (1 child)
burn in hell, clippy.
[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
He's hitting the monitor right now lol
[–]WebcomicAddiction 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (6 children)
Windows Vista Windows 98 Clippy
Windows Vista
Windows 98
Clippy
What the fuck is this chart? How is any of that related to planned obsolescence ?
also:
honey
Is author aware of the fact that over a period of time honey basically becomes sugar?
iphone 4 1 year
iphone 4
1 year
What? Did he just copy pasted warranties?
[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (2 children)
honey Is author aware of the fact that over a period of time honey basically becomes sugar?
Honey is an amazing food item.
[–]useless_aether 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (1 child)
raw honey only!
[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
Good call.
[–]AntiLowEffortHuman 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
Wow I wasn't aware of this either
[–]Otacon 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (1 child)
Did he just copy pasted warranties?
The article uses a really weird method of determining "obsolescence"
Here, We survey and compare how long a product could last before they are deemed unconsumable, or considered phased out or outmoded (i.e, a new model is constructed)
So basically if the company releases a new model the next year then this chart likely considers the original model obsolete regardless of if it still functions. That would explain why the iPhone 3g and 4 only have a one year rating, or PS3 only being rated for 7 years despite myself personally having several original PS3s that are still in excellent working order.
[–]WebcomicAddiction 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
That makes very little sense considering that new models might be made for the different type of customer base or that older models are usually still supported by the companies.
[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun - 4 years ago (5 children)
Yep I just paid 800.00 for a 300.00 dishwasher we still have an old dish washer from the 70s runs just fine and I have never had to repair it. My new $800machine broke 3days in. Open source appliances where are you? We have installed the old bar dish washer right in its place looks odd but 800.00 is going to Bernie employee businesses will be able to compete only with a change in leadership. Not me us!
[–]magnora7 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
In France, it's now required that all products list their estimated lifetime on their packaging.
[–]Snow 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 4 years ago (3 children)
Call the customer service.
[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (2 children)
Lol Sears is gone
[–]Snow 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun - 4 years ago (1 child)
Made in China?
[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
Tag say Wisconsin. The water and drain lines all metal. Pump Westinghouse. All steel. Keep the screen clear I expect another 25 years. It is puck green wife hates it, I love it. Tariff my ass. Bitch! Lol
[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun - 4 years ago (14 children)
So, how much tech change has salt gone through in the past 40 years?
None? It's been the exact same product for thousands of years? OK.
What a stupid comparison.
[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 4 years ago (9 children)
Point accepted. How ever you fail to realize the waste in your statement. Redesigned is not he issue the next great thing isn't the answer it isn't even close. Copyright is fucked in America. I blame capitalism! an the way salt it is minded and packaged changes every day because it's a built in feature to waste. I can't even try to repair my things anymore John Deer told me so.
[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (2 children)
How'd you get from "tech advancement makes things obsolete" to "Copyright is fucked in America"?
You practicing mental leaps for the Olympics or something?
[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
150 years protection for a small change is costing us trillions prove me wrong. The next big thing is killing America. Waste of resources and fixing profit is the king.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/analysis-and-features/these-10-companies-control-everything-you-buy-a7400971.html not when its rigged the big leap is why you miss that.
[–]WebcomicAddiction 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (5 children)
This comment gave me aneurysm.
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (4 children)
Easy button not working?
[–]WebcomicAddiction 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (3 children)
the fuck is easy button
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (2 children)
? I blame ownership laws for the waste of obsolescence. Break those and we won't have this next big thing that takes away the earphone jack on your iPhone and charge you a hundred dollars plus the new ear buds. Conversely we could find landfills and dumpsters with less ewaste. Don't blow a valve not very worth it. We waste so much in our riches to this insidious next big thing. And laws that grant rights to manufactured myths by the greedy is the the problem.
[–]WebcomicAddiction 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (1 child)
Well its all true, its just your phrasing and constant references to some niche terms sometimes makes your comments unreadable.
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
I know working on it.
Good point.
The recently mined multi-million year old sodium-chlorine ionic crystalline structure has recently expired... Toss it in the bin...
[–]Snow 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (2 children)
I hope Saidit has a mute member function.
[–]Chipit 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (1 child)
You neither addressed nor refuted anything I had to say.
[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
Hoping is his purpose. He's getting plenty of practice.
I think that pure vanilla extract is close to eternal.
https://www.eatbydate.com/other/baking/how-long-does-vanilla-extract-last-shelf-life/
[–]vaganger 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun - 4 years ago (3 children)
Fake and gay.
[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
How is it fake?
[–]Snow 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 4 years ago (1 child)
What is "gay"?
[–]vaganger 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
You.
[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun - 4 years ago* (3 children)
What defines the shelf life of these electronic items? I'm pretty sure a lot of the Apple products, for example, last a lot longer than is listed here.
Edit: Also, do you have a link to the specific page you found this infographic?
Shelf life would mean how long the company supports said products. Obviously you can continue to use the original iPhone, or the SNES, but Apple doesn't repair or make updates for the iPhone, and Nintendo doesn't sell the SNES or make games for it.
[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
Oh I thought they were talking about the battery wearing out or the electronics breaking, but I guess you're right. Since salt or sugar cannot be "outdated" like electronics can, it's a bit of an odd comparison. Still interesting though. I had no idea tea has a shelf life
[–]happysmash27 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
Don't iPhones get about 5 years of updates though? The iMac G3, too, appears to have OS support to OS X 10.5, released almost a decade later, which is a few years more than 5.
[–]Vigte 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
Neat and definitely not vertigo inducing!
[–]Entropick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
SNES 1982? About a decade off there.
[–]Many_Coconut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 4 years ago (0 children)
PlayStation's shelflife was not 12 years, not by their own definition of obsolescence.
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