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[–]sawboss[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

CSPAN is okay for seeing what goes on in congress. Accountability requires voters to actually pay attention and punish failure. That won't happen any time soon, especially because party loyalty is all anyone cares about.

[–]magnora7 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

And the media could help with that, but is instead taking us in the opposite direction, of focusing on frivolity.

[–]sawboss[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Yeah, it seems democracy is a deeply flawed system. Too many exploits. People bitch about too much money in politics, but no one considers why that may be. It's because politicians have to campaign for votes. And they pander and lie anyway.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Well democracy clearly doesn't work the way we're doing it, that much has become obvious. There's too many laws, we need a simpler system so people can actually know what it is. We also need another system beyond first-past-the-post because this 2-party nonsense is a big part of the problem. It has created an inflexible duopoly, and they do their best to box out any competition. That's why no real progress is made, it's not a real "free market" of voting. And the media being bought-and-sold adds another layer of problems.

Not sure what the solution is. But it's clear our government is taking us for a ride, and that we're not driving the bus anymore. That's the core thing that needs to change, and the core reason why monarchies ended. Once people get in to power, it's hard to get them out.

[–]sawboss[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Monarchy would be better. It'd do away with all the bullshit, and when shit goes bad everyone knows who's to blame.

Seriously though, considering the harm done by the centralized govt. I'd like to shrink it down as much as possible. What does California have in common with Ohio? Not a damn thing. The policy that California wants comes at the expense of other states. I can drive to the capital of my state in a few hours, but no one in DC has any reason to respond to me.

[–]magnora7 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Well, like they say, the best government is a benevolent dictator. And the worst is a malevolent dictator.

I am also against creating institutionalized centers of power, that corrupt power-seekers spend their lives then infiltrating. That's why moving in a more anarchist/grassroots direction seems like the only sensible way forward

[–]sawboss[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

[–]FormosaOolong 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

and i can't foresee any of that happening unless we dismantle the military-industrial complex, the scourge of the world.

[–]sawboss[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

confederacy