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[–]Canbot 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

I wouldn't be so quick to believe those claims. The cigaret companies paid scientists to say smoking was safe and that was the settled science for decades. The sugar conglomorates paid scientists to say that it was fat in food that was making people fat. It sounds like you have an interest in these claims being true because you find vindication in it, that should make you extra cautious to not fall into the confirmation bias trap.

A very suspicious part of these artificial sweetener hit pieces is that they try to make sweeping claims about all of them at once but each chemical is completely different from the rest. There is an almost zero chance that they all create the same pathology.

Of the studies I have seen they all use thousands of times higher concentrations than is used in food. Even too much water is deadly. Concentration and dose is extremely important so anyone designing an "experiment" like that is clearly corrupt.

I don't see a paper cited here.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Well friend, you might finally be wrong about something. The paper: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37246822/

The quantities:

The amount of sucralose-6-acetate in a single daily sucralose-sweetened drink might far exceed the threshold of toxicological concern for genotoxicity (TTCgenotox) of 0.15 µg/person/day

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    [–]Dregan 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Though this fact was reported as early as 1999, not much attention was paid at the time to aspartame and its maker Monsanto, which was allegedly adding GM aspartame to soft drinks in Britain.

    The patent refers to "cloned microorganisms" later revealed to be genetically modified E. coli bacteria. They are modified to produce an especially large peptide used to create aspartame.

    The cultivated and well-fed bacteria then produce proteins which contain the aspartic acid-phenylalanine amino acid segment required to produce the sweetener.

    Pushed by none other than Donald Rumsfield.

    [–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    aspartame failed FDA approval twice

    [–]Musky 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    The WHO started a anti-smoking campaign in the 70s. Smoking isn't great for you, but the vitriol that has been lobbed against smokers is unreal. Pretty sure some rich fuck in the 70s hated smoking and bought world change like they're trying to do with trannies and pedos and kinksters today.