US Christian group accused of covering up sexual abuse of minors

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[–]UbiquitousCultOfSelf 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

That would be like asking me to explain to you why Nabisco Oreos and Starbucks are biased supporting pride parades.

Okay, why are they biased?

Why are companies that suddenly care about pride biased? Because they (such companies) sense that if you offend this demographic or those who mistakenly think that "I don't care what people do behind closed doors in the privacy of their own homes", their profit margins will be dramatically decreased.
In other words, money is their motivator. 

The pride parades are synonymous with LGBT, etc.

Not exactly LGBT people have been around throughout history. Pride parades are a recent phenomenon: They're about standing bravely against the recent violence and hatred.

Here we have a disconnect. You may have had a point if you had cited demonstrations of the past where they chanted "Here, queer, deal with it" or some such as fully clothed hopefully productive members of society.

Pride parades are nothing as you describe them. They are a, you don't like what I do? I am going to shove it in your face. So every corner of their perversion, yes, takes center stage. You'd be lying if you said otherwise.
There are condoms and candy thrown out, leather bdsm displays, drag shows, on and on.
These are not things happening privately in a bedroom, they are on full display and that was my sub-point.

But you also said "trans-sexual crossdressers featuring children in sexually explicit compromising exploitative roles in their marches, front and center". Which doesn't happen.

It absolutely does. Just as for trans people, it's not enough if people were to leave them alone, they say it's transphobic if a straight man doesn't date them. They don't care if they "pass" and are left alone, they want proof in that, "would you date a trans person?" Most people would answer, hell no! 

Not to mention the push by affiliate groups to de-criminalize pedos. They have lobby groups doing such. Not so with Christians.

The Christians are doing more than their fair share of pedophillia. They'll be more involved in attempting to legalize it. They've certainly been influential in seeing up statues of limitations so that the victims can't sue them as adults: https://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/14/us/sex-abuse-statutes-of-limitation-stir-battle.html

This is misdirection. Equating decriminalization with statute of limitation is disingenuous.
One says it shouldn't be a crime, the other acknowledges it is criminal but states that--for example, it's a 20 year old crime, they should face charges as if it happened yesterday.
I would say, of course they deserve to be punished. Could they have made changes during that time to combat their criminal deviancy? Perhaps, but they still deserve punishment and/or recompense to the victims.

There's a push to let "non offending" pedos off the hook, but honestly it's a time bomb waiting to explode and cause damage. 

So then, are you claiming it's at the systemic level with Christianity?

Isn't that what the paper i linked to shows?

Possibly? Is it you tell me. If it does it's garbage and not worth any moneys paid.
Any study that relies on self reporting, like polls and statistics is junk. 

That's a horrible lie that you'd have to prove.

I've offered some proof of mine. What's your proof that the LGBT community are more likely to be pedophiles?

I think it boils down to innate biases. You seem biased against Christianity or maybe catholicism, and I have my bias against deviancy and fetishes that normalize things like fudge packing.
If you were to say though that built into Christianity was a systemic habit of abusing minors you'd have to take that from an accepted source like the Bible, when in fact there's absolute proof to the opposite of your claim. Jesus stating that better a millstone be tied around an offender's neck and they be thrown into the sea than they offend a child. Take that for what you will, but historically Christians have used this to condemn in the strongest terms pedo behavior.

Do perverts hide in individual homes professing X-ianity? Yes, but that's not inherent in their belief system.
You may as well, at that point, accuse hetero fathers of being inherently pedo. It's not a battle you'd win.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Because they (such companies) sense that if you offend this demographic or those who mistakenly think that "I don't care what people do behind closed doors in the privacy of their own homes", their profit margins will be dramatically decreased.

I would've thought that the companies are run by good loving people. They worry about the hate that is rained on minorities by the christian-influenced groups. And they know that as they demonstrate acceptance it reinforces a social standard of tolerance, which in turn reduces the bullying, discrimination, beatings and murders of the minorities. So they do it because it is the right thing to do.

But what's your best evidence that they're doing it for the profit?

They are a, you don't like what I do? I am going to shove it in your face.

This isn't about pedophilia. This is about adults and freedom of speech.

It sounds link you just need to move your face on one day a year.

There are condoms and candy thrown out, leather bdsm displays, drag shows, on and on.

Condoms are good. They stop you getting diseases and pregnant. I suggest that don't take your young children to such an event: It's not age appropriate.

Just as for trans people, it's not enough if people were to leave them alone, they say it's transphobic if a straight man doesn't date them.

All of them? You'll need to provide some proof that this is the most common position.

This is misdirection. Equating decriminalization with statute of limitation is disingenuous.

They're working on it. You gave no evidence at all of LGBT working on decriminalisation.

Would you please do that?

Possibly? Is it you tell me.

Okay: Yes it does.

I think it boils down to innate biases.

No, show me some research. "Judge a tree by the fruit it bears", Matthew 7:20

If the LGBT community aren't associated with pedophillia, which is what the research shows, then you really shouldn't be bearing false witness against them, if you were a decent christian.

Big if. There are very few such things. Hatred seems to be part of their doctrine.