US Christian group accused of covering up sexual abuse of minors

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[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Aaaaah, so when Christians do it it's a problem?

Of course. How would covering up sexual abuse of minors not be a problem?

50% of black babies dying in the womb isn't child abuse.

Most babies die in the womb, if you count prior to 12 weeks.

Call it abuse if you want, but its normal, unavoidable, not sexual abuse an not being covered up.

Sterilizing and mutilating children isn't abuse.

Would be if it was happening.

No, let's zoom in on the Christian community to see what anomalies we can find there.

When Christianity is operating as a child abuse ring is needs to be called out. Because sexual abuse of children is bad, and we should know about it and act against it.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I've seen accounts on Reddit saying the same thing you are...shill accounts. Make it about Christians and turn the tables when people claim LGBTQ grooms, which they have and do. you my friend should go back.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I've seen accounts on Reddit saying the same thing you are...shill accounts.

Saying what? That covering up sexual abuse is a problem, or that most babies die in the womb if you count prior to 12 weeks?

Make it about Christians and turn the tables when people claim LGBTQ groom

If that's what the evidence shows, then isn't it the opposite? Christians trying to turn the tables and blame the LGBTQ community when it is them that sexually abuse children?

There are studies that show that religiosity predicts child molestation. Religious Affiliations Among Adult Sexual Offenders

religiosity was linked to a higher number of sex offense victims and more convictions for sex offenses. Those sex offenders who reported regular church attendance, a belief in supernatural punishment, and religion as important in their daily lives had more known victims, younger victims, and more convictions for sex offenses than the sex offenders who reported irregular or no church attendance and no or less intense allegiance to religious beliefs and practices.

And there's a stack of literature that shows that LGBTQ are not more likely to molest children than the general population.

For example: Are children at risk for sexual abuse by homosexuals?

which they have and do.

Granted they do. But the do at a rate similar to the cis population, whereas religious people to it more.

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re-read my original comment.

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I've re-read it and my questions are largely the same:

I've seen accounts on Reddit saying the same thing you are

Saying what?

That covering up sexual abuse is a problem, or that most babies die in the womb if you count prior to 12 weeks?

Make it about Christians and turn the tables when people claim LGBTQ grooms

That's the wrong way around though, isn't it. You're blaming a problem that is related to religiosity on LGBTQ people, who are no more likely to be child molesters than the general public.

you my friend should go back.

Your opinion is noted. The fact that it doesn't seem to be based in reality is also noted.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You're doing same thing as happened to me on reddit: look at all these Christian church abusers. Take the eye off of LGBT and put it on these Christians over here. You have an agenda. Nope. You will not get away with minimizing the rainbow crowd's participation.

https://reduxx.info/

[–]ActuallyNot[S] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You're doing same thing as happened to me on reddit: look at all these Christian church abusers.

Do you look at them?

Take the eye off of LGBT and put it on these Christians over here.

Did you read that paper I linked to?

You appear to disagree with the finding: "Using the data from our study, the 95% confidence limits, of the risk children would identify recognizably homosexual adults as the potential abuser, are from 0% to 3.1%. These limits are within current estimates of the prevalence of homosexuality in the general community."

On what basis?

You have an agenda.

Yes. I value the truth.

You will not get away with minimizing the rainbow crowd's participation.

The facts seem to be that they don't have more "participation" than the public in general.

Do you think that you should get away with minimizing the church crowd's "participation"?