UN - Operation Mekong Dragon - Looking for meth, heroin, cocaine.... and pangolins? Red Sandalwood? Turtles, tortoises, and ivory???

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[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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https://www.unodc.org/unodc/en/environment-climate/webstories/omd-iv.html

[–]noshore4me 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Yeah, they're trying to protect endangered species. Why the question marks?

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

There is a strange grouping here between hard drugs and a small selection of animals.... and a tree. Many questions could be asked here.

What is the relationship between the pangolin and meth? Is meth also an endangered species? Or is the pangolin similar to meth in ways that many do not realize? But the UN knows, don't they? The blue helmets are coming.

[–]noshore4me 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Or they simply went after smugglers and there is no connection between the products themselves other than they're all illegal to trade.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Look at the title given by the United Nations: Office on Drugs and Crime.

Why would the pangolin be grouped together with drugs? Maybe you do not know.... but if you did a little searching you would discover how the pangolin scales are used and why they are so prized and costly. There is an "illegal" market for them for a reason.

[–]noshore4me 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Probably because it falls under the "and Crime" portion of it.

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Why is possessing pangolin scales a crime? And why is possessing meth a crime?

[–]noshore4me 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Because pangolins are endangered. The scales are procured by killing the animal. https://www.worldwildlife.org/species/pangolin Meth is a dangerous drug and like most other dangerous substances has been legislated against to make it criminal in an attempt to prevent excess human death. Are you purposefully being ignorant as to why laws are enacted?

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I was trying to get you to think about the relationship between the pangolin and drugs. Consider why the pangolin scales are so coveted and valuable.... The linked page you gave says pangolin scales were used in Chinese "traditional medicine".

I found a UN report that says this about pangolin scales:

China reports regularly releasing these stockpiled scales for domestic use by designated hospitals and manufacturers of patented Chinese medicines.

The UN knows that pangolin scales are used in place of drugs created by pharmaceutical companies. Meth is also manufactured in drug houses and sold on the street, competing directly with pharmaceutical companies that also sell addictive drugs. Hence, the title is fitting: United Nations: Office on Drugs and Crime. Pangolin scales are used in place of drugs.

[–]noshore4me 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Just because it's used in weird concoctions, it doesn't mean it's a drug. Examples of other fucked up items in "traditional Chinese medicine" are rhino horns and tiger bones https://archive.ph/QIEGP Just because some old Chinaman tells you it's a medicine, it doesn't mean it is.

This is the same country that fins sharks for a tasteless item to put in soup as a status symbol. https://archive.ph/Nd7EL

[–]In-the-clouds[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You say "it doesn't mean it's a drug" even though pangolin scales are a very coveted and expensive item. What are these people paying for and why would they be willing to take risks to have it? Maybe they know something you are unwilling to admit, that it is used as a drug.