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    [–]Alienhunter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Have we established that there's been an increase in the death rate of young people or not yet as compared to pre-covid?

    What I see are a bunch of pieces that cherry pick news of young people dying. Not hard to do since world wide young people die suddenly from unknown causes all the time, although "rare" there's gonna be hundreds every day spread across the entire world out of billions of people. At least.

    What I see here and all of them is a "another young person died you know the cause wink wink" thing going on but they won't outright state it was vaccines because they have no evidence for it. They would outright state it if they did. So it stands to reason that they do not.

    Since it would be pretty damning evidence if they could establish a higher death rate compared to before COVID, the fact they haven't also suggests that there isn't one (or at least not when other factors like war and economic downturn are considered) or else they'd state it outright to make the case stronger.

    This is essentially a way they use to take advantage of the human inability to really grasp statistics. I think it's absolutely reasonable to assume that these vaccines have a higher complication rate than older vaccines, something that will get you crucified in more liberal circles for pointing out, but you'll also get crucified in more conspiratorial circles when you point out a tens of thousands established vaccine deaths among billions vaccinated is a bit like pissing in the ocean and claiming it's polluted.

    [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Not hard to do since world wide young people die suddenly from unknown causes all the time,

    This is not true at all. It is very rare for anyone to die of unknown causes. At least it used to be.

    Have we established that there's been an increase in the death rate of young people or not yet as compared to pre-covid?

    Depends on who "we" is. The authorities are lying. If you are one of the people who only trusts the information that comes from the authorities then the answer is no, and there will never be a causal link established to vaccines when they finaly can't keep denying it. We already see the groundwork for those lies being laid down with stories like this: blaming hypertension and obesity dispite the fact that the heart disease jump is very new and those factors are not. And other stories blaming everything from global warming to video games.

    They would outright state it if they did.

    Are you just going to pretend people aren't being banned from every platform for saying bad things about the vaccines? You need a lawyer these days to speek the truth. Meanwhile every time the mainstream narative is exposed as a lie they just say "the science has changed, we weren't lying the science was just wrong."

    Except they won't even say the science was wrong. The proper progressive propaganda is to say "that was the old science and this is the new science". You see, the science can never be wrong, it can only become outdated. That is why you can be 100% sure that this science is true because science has never been wrong before.

    When you have that kind of retarded propagand coming from the authorities and you still trust them then naturally you can't be reasoned with.

    For the rest of us there are the thousands of posts of young people dying suddenly with the blatant lie that no one knows why, which continually reconfirm that we were right all along. And movies like "died suddenly" that tie it all together.

    [–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    This is not true at all. It is very rare for anyone to die of unknown causes. At least it used to be.

    And again it's not entirely true. It's rare, but it happens every day so it's not unheard of. You have to establish that there's been an increase.

    We already see the groundwork for those lies being laid down with stories like this: blaming hypertension and obesity dispite the fact that the heart disease jump is very new and those factors are not. And other stories blaming everything from global warming to video games.

    Obesity increased due to COVID lockdowns, so did sedentary activities like video games. Both can be suspected to contribute to higher death rates.

    We certainly have to deal with a highly censorious internet and restricted public capacity for discussion. However, we cannot simply say that because something is being censored that means it's true. Governments love to censor both lies and the truth. One can argue that the current censorious fervor is driven by fear of low vaccine adoption rates leading to increased death and disease transmission. Or one can argue it's due to profit motive and a desire to protect large corporations and the government from backlash. I suspect there's truth behind both of these explanations. The core of it I think, is the average person tends to be quite stupid and will believe either what is being told to them without question, or will assume everything being told to them by authority is false. Both are fools.