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    [–]Alienhunter 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

    Have we established that there's been an increase in the death rate of young people or not yet as compared to pre-covid?

    What I see are a bunch of pieces that cherry pick news of young people dying. Not hard to do since world wide young people die suddenly from unknown causes all the time, although "rare" there's gonna be hundreds every day spread across the entire world out of billions of people. At least.

    What I see here and all of them is a "another young person died you know the cause wink wink" thing going on but they won't outright state it was vaccines because they have no evidence for it. They would outright state it if they did. So it stands to reason that they do not.

    Since it would be pretty damning evidence if they could establish a higher death rate compared to before COVID, the fact they haven't also suggests that there isn't one (or at least not when other factors like war and economic downturn are considered) or else they'd state it outright to make the case stronger.

    This is essentially a way they use to take advantage of the human inability to really grasp statistics. I think it's absolutely reasonable to assume that these vaccines have a higher complication rate than older vaccines, something that will get you crucified in more liberal circles for pointing out, but you'll also get crucified in more conspiratorial circles when you point out a tens of thousands established vaccine deaths among billions vaccinated is a bit like pissing in the ocean and claiming it's polluted.

    [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Not hard to do since world wide young people die suddenly from unknown causes all the time,

    This is not true at all. It is very rare for anyone to die of unknown causes. At least it used to be.

    Have we established that there's been an increase in the death rate of young people or not yet as compared to pre-covid?

    Depends on who "we" is. The authorities are lying. If you are one of the people who only trusts the information that comes from the authorities then the answer is no, and there will never be a causal link established to vaccines when they finaly can't keep denying it. We already see the groundwork for those lies being laid down with stories like this: blaming hypertension and obesity dispite the fact that the heart disease jump is very new and those factors are not. And other stories blaming everything from global warming to video games.

    They would outright state it if they did.

    Are you just going to pretend people aren't being banned from every platform for saying bad things about the vaccines? You need a lawyer these days to speek the truth. Meanwhile every time the mainstream narative is exposed as a lie they just say "the science has changed, we weren't lying the science was just wrong."

    Except they won't even say the science was wrong. The proper progressive propaganda is to say "that was the old science and this is the new science". You see, the science can never be wrong, it can only become outdated. That is why you can be 100% sure that this science is true because science has never been wrong before.

    When you have that kind of retarded propagand coming from the authorities and you still trust them then naturally you can't be reasoned with.

    For the rest of us there are the thousands of posts of young people dying suddenly with the blatant lie that no one knows why, which continually reconfirm that we were right all along. And movies like "died suddenly" that tie it all together.

    [–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    This is not true at all. It is very rare for anyone to die of unknown causes. At least it used to be.

    And again it's not entirely true. It's rare, but it happens every day so it's not unheard of. You have to establish that there's been an increase.

    We already see the groundwork for those lies being laid down with stories like this: blaming hypertension and obesity dispite the fact that the heart disease jump is very new and those factors are not. And other stories blaming everything from global warming to video games.

    Obesity increased due to COVID lockdowns, so did sedentary activities like video games. Both can be suspected to contribute to higher death rates.

    We certainly have to deal with a highly censorious internet and restricted public capacity for discussion. However, we cannot simply say that because something is being censored that means it's true. Governments love to censor both lies and the truth. One can argue that the current censorious fervor is driven by fear of low vaccine adoption rates leading to increased death and disease transmission. Or one can argue it's due to profit motive and a desire to protect large corporations and the government from backlash. I suspect there's truth behind both of these explanations. The core of it I think, is the average person tends to be quite stupid and will believe either what is being told to them without question, or will assume everything being told to them by authority is false. Both are fools.

    [–]monkeymagic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    the fact that there is available news at all is the part that jumps out at me. msm controls the narrative. if they are reporting “died suddenly, unknown cause”, they are doing that for a reason.

    kinda like how the nfl had damar hamlin carted off via ambulance only to return as the unibomber FOR A REASON!

    [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    The point of labeling it an unknown cause is to hide the fact that there is a huge spike in miocarditis. That stat is a fraction of total deaths so an additional thousand deaths a month of that particular cause will show up as a 300% increase in miocarditis deaths, but it will only be a 3% increase in all cause mortality.

    They are lying about not knowing the cause of death. Doctors and coroners are not this stupid. I would like to hear any other reasonable explanation as to why they are lying if it is not to cover up a vaccine injury epidemic.

    [–]BanditMcFuklebuck 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    Why not the virus itself? Covid is established as a cause of cardiac issues and it's floating around in the air all around us. Why jump to the conclusion that it's an inert protein manufactured by our own bodies thru mRNA and not an actual pathogen?

    [–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    an inert protein

    The spike protien is anything but inert. It is extremely damaging to our cells. It's function is to poke holes in cells so the virus can get in.

    Covid is a respiratory virus. It does not infect every cell in the body the way the mRNA injection can. The spike protiens produced by the virus are not free floating, they are part of the protective membrane of the virus. That makes them easier to clean up for the immine system. There are also far less of them produced in a natural infection.

    It is also the fact that the mRNA injection infects other cells that makes the vaccine so harmful. It directly attacks blood vessle cells and heart cells. These do not get infected by covid.

    [–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Money.

    It's very simple. The reason is money. Which sells more papers /clicks.

    Young person dies reason unknown!

    Politicians mull over discussion rules.

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      [–]Alienhunter 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Extremely Satisfying Sex?

      [–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      and you see, we bring about our own demise

      we get what we think will be,

      as much as the elite's actions piss me off

      i think they did nothing but say they did something

      all the rest was done by you, and everyone else's anxiety

      my shield, my life, my reason for being healthy is God

      nothing outside of God matters, or even exists

      rest in that, find that truth inside yourself

      i say this is so, it is true

      peace be unto you, love you

      [–]1Icemonkey 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

      That’s too bad. She looks like a hot little piece of ass!

      [–]FreakyFalangist 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      least unhinged saidit commenter

      [–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Based on your user name I would think you might prefer her refrigerated.

      [–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (21 children)

      where have I heard that phrase before?

      Covid kills people in the days and weeks after infection from things like heart disease and blood clots. The increase in such deaths will be the increase in covid now that the lockdowns are finished, as people are expected to be protected by vaccination.

      The take-home is keep your vaccinations up to date.

      [–]Chipit[S] 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

      Oh look, it's one of those weird suspicious accounts defending the position of the powerful again. It's like a recurring pattern!

      [–]BISH 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      It's probably /u/socks.

      [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

      Oh look, it's one of those dishonest suspicious accounts trying to have more Americans die again. It's like a recurring pattern!

      [–]Chipit[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      Blue

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        [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (15 children)

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          [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

          [–]CarCrusher 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

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          [–]CarCrusher 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

          On Twitter the died suddenly account lists many people who have died shortly after getting their vaccination. Many people are dying because of this.

          https://mobile.twitter.com/diedsuddenly_

          [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

          On Twitter the died suddenly account lists many people who have died shortly after getting their vaccination.

          No, just people who died suddenly. More likely it's shortly after getting a COVID infection.

          Even in children and young people, covid is a killer.

          COVID-19 mortality in the time period of August 1, 2021, to July 31, 2022, was among the 10 leading causes of death in [Children and young people] aged 0 to 19 years in the US, ranking eighth among all causes of deaths, fifth in disease-related causes of deaths (excluding unintentional injuries, assault, and suicide), and first in deaths caused by infectious or respiratory diseases when compared with 2019.

          https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2800816

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            [–]CarCrusher 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

            Candace Owens disagrees with you.

            She is the one that blew the whistle on the black lives matter fraud

            https://files.catbox.moe/e2omzi.png

            [–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

            the black lives matter fraud

            What fraud is that?

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              [–]CarCrusher 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

              [–]dicknipples 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

              Dinverno’s cause of death is still under investigation.

              You know what that means????? It's the vaccine!!!!! Anyone believing The Gateway Pundit is obviously a moron.

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                [–]dicknipples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

                Of course - let's be simp cucks for the .01% GOP and believe in unfounded claims rather than the facts.

                [–]CarCrusher 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

                weather have a good day well it's all capital letters nails you might want to go look at the federal employees and military employees and our health c

                [–]dicknipples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

                dude - get help

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                  [–]dicknipples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                  you are obviously insane

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                    [–]dicknipples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

                    yep, you're nuts

                    [–]CarCrusher 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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                      [–]dicknipples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

                      No, it's not due to an obviously harmless vaccine. See a doctor (rather than assume that you have years of medical training).

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                        [–]dicknipples 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                        so that's you...

                        makes sense

                        [–]CarCrusher 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        [–]CarCrusher 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        [–]SMCAB 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

                        Bum, bum, bum. Another one bites the dust. Another one gone and another one gone, Another one bites the dust yeah.

                        [–]WoodyWoodPecker 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        [–]monkeymagic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        hey, he’s gonna sit by YOU, another one rides the bus 🚎

                        [–]SMCAB 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        And yet, dicknipples is still alive. The wrong kid died.

                        [–]SMCAB 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        And yet, actually not is still alive. The wrong kid died.

                        [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

                        Listen, "Died Suddenlies should not be overwhelmingly woman since we know Pfizer/Moderna mRNA damages male hearts MUCH more than female ones. This should be trivial to anyone who has followed antivaxsphere.

                        So if the hypothesis is correct that "Died Suddenlies" are caused by heart damage (myocarditis, clots from heart causing heart attacks or brain strokes or pulmonary embolisms which are all very fatal conditions) the large number of Ns of "died suddenlies" past and the future should have overwhelming male majority.

                        However complicating factor possibly invalidating the hypothesis is the fact that blood clots are flormning in female bodies much faster because there is other big pharma poison that causes clots and they interact.

                        Care to guess? It's the birth control pills.

                        I've said enough.