BREAKING: The Colorado Springs LGBTQ nightclub shooting suspect is non-binary and “uses they/them pronouns”according to attorneys

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[–]cars 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (20 children)

I suspected this was an inside job. The timing was just a little too perfect, what with the shooting happening right before Transgender Remembrance Day and all. This was probably some angry male enby who wanted to make it seem like an actual trans genocide was going on and was angry at the rest of the trans community for not accepting him as a ~valid woman~.

[–][deleted] 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Yup, and we know in in-group/out-group dynamics, people tend to be more angry at those groups more similar to them or who are supposed to be closer in ideology. There is pushback from the LGBs about the forced teaming from the TQ+ additions. There is clear animosity from many members of the TQ+ community (because they are mentally ill and deeply unhappy) towards both LGB and women's groups, and I suspect we'll see more (actually) violent outbursts from the TQ+ towards both women and LGB in the future.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

I think it's more likely he's gay and he got turned down because he's fat.

The gays are thinness fascists.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Him calling himself non-binary doesn't help.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I don't think men screwing around care about the personality of of the body they are sticking their dick in as much as looks.

[–]tyranicaloverlord 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Good perspective. I was trying to figure out why a non-binary person would shoot up the place. Lack of acceptance, they are mentally unstable, and they snapped.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Apparently gays don't accept non binaries, despite what the gay liberal media would have you believe.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (13 children)

ARAIKT his defence lawyers are the first ones who have said he's non-binary.

In his past he's been male.

His Grandfather is the Republican Member of the California State Assembly from the 71st district. His father (Voepel's former son-in-law) is a MMA fighter and porn star.

[–]cars 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

That doesn't make his self-ID any less valid than all the other Brave and Stunning self-IDs.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Self ID is all there is. The timing is unusual.

[–]cars 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

A trans person is whatever they say they are. #TrustTransPeople, dood.

[–]ActuallyNot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

That's certainly the most respectful thing that we can do as non-specialists. And that is important for the well-being of trans people.

But a clinician making a diagnosis of Trans or Gender Non-Conforming would look for consistency over time, as intermittent thoughts or feelings of gender incongruity is symptomatic of delusions or unstable personality characteristics. Gender dysphoria as a consistent condition over time rules out psychiatric illness. Which may be the case with Aldrich, but nothing I'm aware of is inconsistent with him being male until the documents filed by his lawyers for this case.

Not that I would be aware, but there's been some reporting of interviews with his family and friends.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Why would gender non-conforming be a diagnosis?

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

If you're going to treat something, you need a diagnosis. Amongst your differential diagnosis would be Trans or Gender Non-Conforming, and psychiatric illness, if the symptoms are reporting thoughts or feelings of gender incongruity.

The treatments are quite different, so an accurate diagnosis is much better.

[–]Vulptex 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Why would gender non-conformity need to be treated? Is it a mental illness not to conform to societal gender norms? Yet the same people who think so insist that gender dysphoria, a horrible disease that causes severe distress for all those unfortunate enough to be afflicted by it, is perfectly normal and healthy.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You don't need to treat trans or nonconforming gender.

But they are a possible diagnosis if a patient presents with gender dysphoria. Which should be treated. To the extent that it can. For the reason you point out. It is distressing and is the cause of psychiatric illness and suicidal ideation.

[–]Alienhunter 9 insightful - 3 fun9 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

Hmm, if true that's pretty much gonna be my canned response to anyone introducing themselves with they them pronouns.

"Hello I'm an annoying cunt and my pronouns are they /them."

"Oh like that guy that shot all those gay people at the nightclub? Are you homophobic?"

[–]LordoftheFlies 7 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 0 fun8 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If a straight white guy had done this, they'd be dragging his social media for anything that even slightly resembles a hint of potential alt-right ideology and waving it around for everyone as proof that the "bad" whites are about rise up and violently oppress everyone yet again, and this is why voting blue forever is the only solution.

Now though? It'll be like Darrell Brooks, where they can't deny he did it and with intent as well, but they're damned sure not going to spend hours every day covering every last detail of the accused's life and beliefs to make the sheep aware of the wolves that supposedly prowl eternally outside of the safety of their little pens.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Just like the Florida night club shooting all over again.

[–]Chipit 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

That was a Muslim.

[–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

A muslim with a gay lover

[–]ActuallyNot 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

A muslim with a gay lover

No, with female lovers:

The FBI, however, has been unable to verify that Mateen used gay dating apps and instead has found evidence that Mateen was cheating on his wife with other women.-https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/no-evidence-so-far-to-suggest-orlando-shooter-targeted-club-because-it-was-gay/2016/07/14/a7528674-4907-11e6-acbc-4d4870a079da_story.html

[–]cars 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

The Florida shooter, from what I understand, didn't specifically target a gay bar -- he just wanted to shoot up any bar and a gay bar happened to be closest to him at the time, I think.

[–]jet199 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yep, it was and anti-western culture attack.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Jews must have been planning it then

[–]RedEyedWarrior 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Also the gay bar was a gun free zone. Admittedly, you cannot bring a gun to a pub in Florida, but those other pubs had armed bouncers while Pulse did not.

[–]BISH 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's a hoax shooting.

[–]JoeyJoeJoe 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Are we still getting wrapped up in all this tranny crap?

Fuck that nonsense & burn the media.

[–]clownworlddropout 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The story is probably going to drop off then, the media can't churn out the same old narrative now.

[–]WhenImBanned 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Only a fool would think that a shooter who attacked an LGBT club would be punished the same way as a shooter who attacked a regular club. Obviously attacking the LGBT club would be punished more severely because according to the establishment the lives of gay people are worth more than the lives of regular people.

Also it could be a trick suggested to the shooter by his lawyer "Oy shooter, let's tell people you are non-binary and use they/them pronouns. I know the system, these schmucks will reduce your sentence if you claim to be gay. fist rub"

[–]RedEyedWarrior 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Obviously attacking the LGBT club would be punished more severely because according to the establishment the lives of gay people are worth more than the lives of regular people.

That's because gay people are being used as weapons by the deep state.

[–]EternalSunset 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

From lone gunman to multiple gunpersons. 🤣

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Oh no, Homos get shooted, such horrible tragedy, RIP.

OK, Anyway....

[–]dissidentrhetoric 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This will be legacy media memory holed quicker than hilary clinton wakes up in the morning.

[–]RedEyedWarrior 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

be gay beta male

get rejected by other gay men for being beta male

find out Dad did porn

call yourself non-binary and still get rejected

decide to kill other gay men

target gay bar with drag queens who expose themselves in front of children, in hopes that based people will call you a hero

get beaten up by drag queens

still get hated by based people because you're non-binary and they think this shooting is a psyop

(((media))) sweeps your episode under the rug because you being non-binary kills their narrative

???

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