'She was fine, and then her heart stopped': Illinois Rep. Sean Casten reveals healthy daughter, 17, died from rare cardiac arrhythmia in her sleep in June - family has been left 'grasping at the wrong end of a random chance' (She was vaccinated)

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[–]Tronski 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

My assumption might have been wrong, but 10 out of 10 times I've seen these kinds of posts someone is trying to link (covid) vaccines to a new kind of unexplained death / heart failure that has never been seen before 2020.

And if nothing else, you can see the first anti-vaxxer going at my comment within minutes, lol. The information doesn't hurt.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It is fair to evidence the existence of the condition prior to COVID, and it is fair that the 'anti-vaxxers' as you call them have their view too. There's nothing wrong with people linking conditions to a new type of medical intervention with no long term studies and limited study groups. It's important that people are able to share their concerns after they were silenced by social media for doing this at the beginning of the 'pandemic'.

Your post ended with an assumption that can easily be opposed with an equal and opposite assumption. The article even highlights that COVID itself can increase likelihood of such a death, is it so far fetched that the vaccine can cause it too? We are bombarded with pro-vaccine propaganda, and have been for a couple of years now, to put anyone down for raising concerns of vaccines having an increased risk of similar conditions is just joining in with the media propaganda.

[–]Tronski 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

I don't disagree with you that it's legit to put it out there, but I'd like to see the link being made by researchers who's conducting actual research that can be peer-reviewed and replicated.

But on the other hand, when the death are difficult to explain to begin with, how would you differentiate between those that died as a result of getting the vaccine and those who would have died anyway?

Considering how many have gotten the vaccine, unless the unvaccinated cases from 2022 are equal or larger than the total from 2019, it would be almost impossible to link a single death to vaccines

It's a recipe for confirmation basis: "0% of SADS had the covid vaccine in 2019, 5% more total cases in 2022 and 75% of the dead were vaccinated. Yup, vaccines cause more SADS."

As a comment about other media, I don't know about Reddit, but Twitter does not remove content trying to link SADS to covid vaccines. That's where I've had most of the discussions.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'd like to see the link being made by researchers who's conducting actual research that can be peer-reviewed and replicated.

Good luck to the researcher publishing any evidence of harm from a vaccine advocated by the entire pharmaceutical industry, every government, all media and all universities. It is a career ender to contradict narrative science.

Considering we already have massively skewed data on actual COVID deaths, hyper.inflated due to recording COVID as a cause of death for any person who had tested positive within 28 days of dying regardless of whether it was actually death by drink driving, a complication of stage 4 cancer or a gunshot wound to the face. If we cannot trust data that uses deaths with COVID as deaths of COVID, how can we now trust data that suggests the vaccines cause zero deaths? There is no way that there will be open and honest discussion about the repercussions of vaccine side effects and fatalities.

[–]tiny-brown-mug 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

There's some stuff on the NIH website.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8446734/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35042731/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36087300/

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34222134/

Sadly, some studies basically admit that the injections are potentially dangerous for some people, but still push them as "safe and effective overall", and recommend them. The pressure on the medical industry, doctors, and researches to just shut up and go along with the program must be immense.

You can also use the search bar on the NIH website to hunt for articles.

[–]Tronski 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

I seem to clearly remember blood clots from AstraZeneca being a huge thing that lead to it being pulled. What makes you say they'll be forever dishonest about the effect when they were clearly open and honest about consequences after only a few weeks?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

AZ is still approved for use by the EU. They issued it in the UK for the first 3 doses for people. Clearly they knew and didn't give a shit. Still not convinced me to trust them.

[–]Tronski 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Is that not because they made changes and got reapproved?