Elderly man gets hit in the head with his own wine bottle by two muggers on Chicago train after confronting him at 2am. Black on Asian, so none of the usual suspects will care.

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[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 2 fun10 insightful - 1 fun11 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

There is a ton of black on asian crimes in the Bay Area where I live, amazingly none of the stories about it in the news ever mention that its literally only black people assaulting asian folks. Why aren't we allowed to call this out? It is quite hypocritical to ignore these racially motivated hate crimes from the same group that is campaigning for racial justice. The black community should be ashamed of this, and put social pressure on their peers to live up to the ideals they are asking for.

We can't address the issue of black racism if we pretend it doesn't exist

[–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

I don't really think these crimes are racially motivated for the most part. I think focusing on the race aspect is a bit of a red herring here and I think at least part of the issue is due to Chinese propagandists trying to float a "everyone hates Asians in America" narrative to try to discourage people from defecting.

What I will say is I think that you get the black on asian attacks like this simply because poor black people and Asians tend to live close to each other, and the poverty is the driving factor behind these violent crimes. That and drugs but also links back into the poverty issue. How do you deal with it? Well you need to beef up policing and sentencing to make sure these violent people are not loose in society. That's something the left has fumbled consistently with compassionate messages. I'm all for giving the guy that did nothing besides get high or shoplifted something a second chance but violent crime? Fuck no. Maybe after a long time in jail if they prove themselves responsible a second chance is warranted, but the third chance should be a long drop and a short stop.

However dealing with the violence by beefing up sentencing and enforcement while good isn't going to deal with the root causes as to why crimes are up in the first place, it's just dealing with the symptoms, it needs to be done but the right doesn't seem to understand that educational opportunities and housing programs and community organizational structures and the like can go a long way to mitigating this stuff from getting this bad in the first place, naturally such programs are often woefully misrun and used merely as ways to get administrators and bureucrats fat paychecks and the right is damn correct in pointing that out, but throw out the baby with with the bathwater and rely only on bootstrapping to get people out of the terminal poverty spiral is also stupid. Why is there so much crime in these poor areas? Because crime pays better than whatever else you can get when you're uneducated and unable to pursue more lucrative legal and moral employment.

And well drugs play a huge roll as well but that's another point where the both sides have a huge blindspot. We can't just be alright what's wrong with legal heroin libertarian types (heroin fucks people up and is illegal for good reason) but we are also far beyond Singapore style enforcement where we can effectively death sentence the few drug users and scare everyone else into compliance. It's why counter intuitive shit like the needle exchanges make sense. They're doing it anyway might as well have them self identify to you so you can start putting them through detox.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

legal heroin libertarian types

It'll save a lot of lives, junkies are mostly dying of fent. That synthetic stuff is just harder on the body and easier to overdose.

[–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

True. But one must question whether or not it's worth it for society to save these lives at the cost of wider addiction.

I don't think we gain much from tossing addicts in prisons with other addicts and dealers and making their future employment prospects bleak. But that doesn't mean society should tolerate certain kinds of drug use. Heroin is basically only acceptable when you're gonna die anyway and it's like, well he's got terminal cancer this will make him feel better, be addicted for life but life is only like a couple days more so... What's the harm?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Heroin is basically only acceptable when you're gonna die anyway and it's like, well he's got terminal cancer this will make him feel better, be addicted for life but life is only like a couple days more so... What's the harm?

I agree with that.

My grandfather had a broken back among other injuries, guy was in pain constantly, and he was only allowed a very strict amount of hydrocodone. One of my Aunt's used to almost delight in denying him the opiates and making him take Tylenol instead. I never saw the point, he suffered a lot more than he had to in his final years. I said exactly what you did, what does it matter if he becomes dependent on it, or addicted, it was the ass end of life.

Myself, I believe I have hypermobile Ehlers-Danlos with early onset osteoarthritis -- that began 26 years ago or so and it mostly just gets worse with time. When there's big pressure changes, like from rain or storms, it totally hobbles me, and the pain can drive me out of my mind. I'd love if I could just pick up opiates. Used to be able to just buy em, still can, but now there's fent in everything and you're risking your life.

Not that they're indicated for use in EDS, in fact they make things worse because I will move like I'm not hurt and hurt myself worse, but all I have that works somewhat is kratom, and that's better for minor pain, and booze. I feel like I'm back in the 1800s, anesthetizing myself with alcohol. And that doesn't help when I'm already pain crazed.

I don't want people to get addicted and ruin their lives, or die, I really don't, but I also don't want to suffer and see others suffer because of the addicts.

[–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Have you tried the Buddhist method of lying to yourself that the pain is just an illusion.

It's far from perfect but surprisingly effective.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I didn't realize that was Buddhist in origin, but yes, I do use mindfulness as well as disassociation. The later isn't recommended, so I don't do it much, but when I've been up four or five days, idgaf.

I try a lot of different things, doing something even if it doesn't work that well is much better than just sitting there and suffering. The acupuncture seemed to help, although what I do is probably more accurately called microneedling.

[–]Alienhunter 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Not Buddhist in origin but popularized by the Tibetan monks that do the whole freezing mountain meditation shit. Disassociation is bad though, you don't want to disassociate yourself from feeling, you want to disassociate the pain from yourself. It only works so long as it's not excruciating but there's benefit to telling yourself the pain is not so bad to stop you from doing the things you want.

Granted having painkillers also helps greatly.