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[–]CreditKnifeMan 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

Also, I seriously doubt this is an issue that only gay men are experiencing.

I strongly suspect that this is a PsyOp.

Everyone is getting the inoculation "pox", but the Gaslighting of the symptoms as a "gay men" disease ensures that only the most severe straight cases are seen by a physician.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

My personal hypothesis is that this is an effort to herd gay men into a vaccination campaign that will introduce other, undisclosed agents along with the leaky Vx they are promising. Reminds me of the conspiracy theory that HIV was introduced via the Hepatitis vaccine campaigns of the 70s. Obviously I don't have any hard evidence for this, it just feels like this is the purpose: it was unacceptable to advocate for limiting sexual partners until after most of the gays had already gotten their first shot (and even then you can only say hey guys maybe you should limit your contacts to 2 a week instead of 10). The only acceptable solution was a shitty vaccine that doesn't even really work (and now they're splitting the doses into fifths).

The whole thing is really fucking me up. I'm a gay guy who very much believes in (and practices) monogamy and I'm totally repulsed by the promiscuity and piss orgy culture. So part of me is outraged that the "powers that be" could do this to gay men, but on the other hand, play stupid games win stupid prizes. I hate that MPX is bringing out all the antigay hatred, but on the other hand I have no way to offer a rational objection to the hatred.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I hate that MPX is bringing out all the antigay hatred, but on the other hand I have no way to offer a rational objection to the hatred.

It seems very Biblical, a plague on homosexuals.

I'm a gay guy who very much believes in (and practices) monogamy and I'm totally repulsed by the promiscuity and piss orgy culture

Why does that sort of hedonistic culture even exist?

[–]IridescentAnaconda 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Why does that sort of hedonistic culture even exist?

Because it can. Some straight guys would be equally and disgustingly hedonistic, but women tend to prefer their men one-at-a-time rather than all-at-once, so it is much more difficult for an individual straight man to achieve the same level of degeneracy. Now imagine a system where there are no barriers to any and every kind of degeneracy, and add in whatever personal trauma that contributes. Finally, consider the specific culture develops around the structural capacity for debauchery, and then imagine being an individual gay man who, all other things being equal, would prefer to live a righteous life but finds that the culture doesn't support this preference.

Yes, it is very Biblical. Right now I think a lot about Romans 1:27. Whatever your thoughts on about the Bible being the literal Word of God (especially Paul's contributions), it at least functions as a historical record. Just the existence of this passage tells you that gay men were behaving the same way even 2000 years ago. It's a structural property, it doesn't even have anything to do with the inclinations of individuals, it results from the long-term average behavior of the system as a whole.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, it is very Biblical. Right now I think a lot about Romans 1:27.

This recent voting manipulation incident had me thinking about Matthew 7:15-20, and people in general. I was looking at biblical quotes regarding homosexuality also, I didn't realize how many there were until they were all grouped together like that. None good for your team. Romans 1:27 is interesting

Whatever your thoughts on about the Bible being the literal Word of God (especially Paul's contributions), it at least functions as a historical record.

God makes trees, not books. I like the Bible and there's a lot of good wisdom in there, but man corrupts what he touches. Obviously the bible preaches homosexuals should be put to death. I see how that might have been necessary as a draconic ancient health measure to stop their version of the monkey pox or AIDs, but what sort of loving God would put someone like you to death, or want someone to?

If we die, we get to go to the Kingdom of Heaven, also suss, and live forever in Paradise with the most boring milquetoast people to ever have existed? But even if that made sense, why would we fear death if there really was something better waiting. Why would we condemn those who end life. There are logical schisms.

[–]IridescentAnaconda 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

This recent voting manipulation incident had me thinking about Matthew 7:15-20

Well, plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose.

Obviously I think putting homosexuals to death is extreme, but I have no problem with closing down Grindr and all other apps/establishments that promote high-volume promiscuity. I mean, they showed that they can do that with C-19, why not now?

On the subject of God, the afterlife, etc., which is my favorite topic, one that I prefer over homosexuality and MPX. The Kingdom of Heaven is a state, it's not a "place". You can't attain the Kingdom of Heaven while you're chasing tail (of whatever gender). All addictions are problematic, not just sexual addiction. I am not a Christian (at least not by the criteria accepted by most people who call themselves Christians), I am a pagan who believes in a Supreme Being that presides over a potentially infinite number of divine beings that could be thought of as archangels, gods etc. (there are technical differences between all of these but that's a detail not relevant here). The Supreme Being doesn't care about anything that we care about, He is too remote, too large. Individual divine beings may or may not care, depending on the personality. Prayer, offering, sacrifice, etc. allow you to resonate with one or more of these beings, which in turn brings you closer the Supreme Being (on average ... certain metaphysical beings probably complicate matters, you know which ones I'm talking about). When you resonate with those beings (the right ones anyway) you get closer to the Kingdom of Heaven. The "afterlife" is a more complicated topic because time is an illusion, so the concept of "after" is problematic. Let's just say that there is an Eternal Present and in that Present you can be in the Kingdom of Heaven or you can be in Hell. My personal opinion is that attending MPX piss orgies is not behavior that tends to promote a heavenly state of mind.