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[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

You moved the goalposts with whataboutism and now you want to cry about ad hominems? Fuck off.

A 32-year-old woman took advantage of a 13-year-old boy. Attempting to downplay that is some pedo-groomer bullshit.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

You moved the goalposts with whataboutism and now you want to cry about ad hominems? Fuck off.

Whataboutism, a valid example proving something wrong, but dismissed as invalid based on the fact that they cannot refute it

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Adults should not have sex with 13-year-olds under any circumstances.

If you want to pat yourself on the back for having a more "ambiguous" opinion than that, well...

OK, Groomer.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Adults should not have sex with 13-year-olds under any circumstances.

I will grant the teachers behavior is predatory, 30 year olds shouldn't be trying to take advantage of 13 year olds. I will even grant that many 13 year olds are probably not ready to have sex, but I don't think I would consider myself victimized if I had been in this situation. I'd probably reminisce with my buddies about how awesome it was. Actually 13 is maybe a little young, but I know for sure this would have been the case by the time I was 15.

I more object to your reasoning. You accused me of 'moving the goalposts', but I never set them, you did when you said any minor having sex with any adult is unable to consent, and I don't think this is true. If I am 17 years old sleeping with my 17 year old girlfriend, we can both consent to sex. If I turn 18 before her, she suddenly loses all ability to consent, but regains it a few days later when she turns 18. This doesn't make any sense, yet it fits inside the goalpost that you set, and in many states would make you a sex offender if caught.

Whats worse, an 18 year old adult banging a 17 year old minor, or a 65 year old banging a legal 18 year adult. To me the second one feels more exploitative, but by your standards and the law, the first one is, and I don't see the justification for that.