SOCKS IS BANNED.

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[–]Zahn 8 insightful - 5 fun8 insightful - 4 fun9 insightful - 5 fun -  (19 children)

There was something "off" about Socks. I understand that he would often try to back up his left wing nut beliefs with an "argument". HOWEVER all of his arguments were very "scripted" almost as if copied off of Snopes or otherwise the arguments sounded to the trained ear as if they were pre-scripted "auto-responses' to any opposition to main stream narrative.

I don't mind having opposition to beliefs, but it's quite literally impossible for anyone considering the preponderance of counter-narrative theories presented from Saiddit users to then yet still parrot Buzzfeed/Snopes level scripted reactions like he did, without at least...taking a step back to re-assess their beliefs on any random topics. Humans would do that, but maybe not Ai's.

TLDR...Socks was 90+% likely to be 1. a moronic idioacracy level left wing nut. 2. A paid or un-paid (lol) shill.

◟(ᵔ ̮ ᵔ)͜💐 RIP Socks....flowers for you...it was a good run you had there. I can't wait to track down your alt user account and whatever other subhuman sell-out miscreants that are sent to take your place.

[–]magnora7 13 insightful - 10 fun13 insightful - 9 fun14 insightful - 10 fun -  (6 children)

So you want to hear "off"? How about this... he made a thread on reddit to shame saidit just after being banned (which backfired) and then was also talking to his alt who made the thread using his main reddit socks account, and even fighting with himself!

https://old.reddit.com/r/RedditAlternatives/comments/uk8kk2/saidit_is_borked/i7odcbj/

And I know the reddit socks account is his because he started PMing me about it. And the OP of that thread is definitely also him because it was the only person I banned from saidit that day and the thread was created 2 hours after the ban. So they're both definitely socks.

Talk about strange. I still don't know what to make of that one. Why is he disagreeing with himself using alts

The way reddit socks says "It’s a Cloudflare security setting, not a Saidit ban. If you need this explained, ask." sounds like he wasn't even operating the socks account on saidit, because he didn't even realize it had been banned from saidit until a few hours later when he started PMing me. Like another person he was overseeing was running it and he thought that person had fucked up. So even though the reddit socks account is clearly associated with the saidit socks account, the reddit socks didn't realize the saidit one had been banned until hours later. So they're run by different people who are cooperating.

So it seems likely to be a group working together. Either that or he just loves insanely disagreeing with himself to create random public arguments.

Talk about "off".

edit: And then he deleted the reddit comment, removing the evidence. And then replied to this saidit comment using another alt account I had to ban. This guy has way too much time on his hands.

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    [–]magnora7 6 insightful - 4 fun6 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

    This account has been banned because making alternate accounts for banned accounts is not allowed.

    [–]JasonCarswell[S] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (2 children)

    Would you like to host a decentralized Lemmy instance?
    Unless it's just talk, several of us will be sharing how to do so soon.

    Look at the users who support the ban - the craziest of the Saiditors. Look at those who don't support the ban - the smarter contributors.

    False.

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      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 1 insightful - 3 fun1 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      I'm for freedom.

      In September the PPC was the ONLY substantial fringe party against the COVID hysteria overreaction. I was going to help my friend Victor Green on his campaign but they and the party were unorganized. I despise their conservative platform, but my protest vote for them was ONLY for freedom.

      Now I'm campaign manager for David Sylvestre running for the non-partisan None Of The Above Direct Democracy Party. https://Projex.Wiki/wiki/David_Sylvestre_2022_political_campaign

      [–]jay_eclipses 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

      dang

      [–]neomarxist_bullshit 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (9 children)

      I can't wait to track down your alt user account and whatever other subhuman sell-out miscreants that are sent to take your place.

      you seem like you would be a great comrade under communism sir

      [–]Zahn 6 insightful - 5 fun6 insightful - 4 fun7 insightful - 5 fun -  (8 children)

      It was an oversight for me to paint this with such a broad brush stroke. Yet, Socks was okay injecting defenseless children with an experimental "vaccine". Many shills of his caliber echo this sentiment often. It is un-ethical to use the vulnerable and children as guinea pigs for corporate profiteering. Therefore, people who advocate for this then fail to measure up to a basic modicum of accepted universal human behavior that would protect vulnerable members of society from potentially or provably dangerous things. Hence, the deserved subhuman label.

      It's a boring but rewarding hobby for me to spot shills in the wild. Sort of like bird watching perhaps. There are so many different varieties, tactics and flavors of forum community disrupters. But no Comrade, I have no interest in hunting down people that simply disagree. There is a time and space for everyone to co-exist peacefully with meaningful discussion. It's just that the "shills" do not understand this premise and cannot help themselves from infiltrating spaces that differ in beliefs from them with the intention of ruining these spaces for everyone.

      [–]neomarxist_bullshit 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

      Yet, Socks was okay injecting defenseless children with an experimental "vaccine".

      I see a lot of pro-Russian shills here and yet I don't stalk them like a lunatic, I just post what I have to say about it when I'm in the mood and then go outside.

      It's a boring but rewarding hobby for me to spot shills in the wild.

      Who do you think socks was hurting on this site that's full of anti-system people?

      [–]Zahn 4 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

      pro-Russian shills

      Being neutral about Russia or even expressing disagreement with Western hegemony doesn't equal pro-whatever and doesn't make the commenter a pro-Russian shill.

      Who do you think socks was hurting on this site that's full of anti-system people?

      He was attempting to use the platform as a free advertisement for his twisted cookie cutter establishment narrative and thereby disrupting conversation. It was like having Snopes or Reddit immediately interjected into what would of been a meaningful discovery discussion. I don't mind disagreement, but Socks was such a preposterous normie level rebuttal, it was intellectually offensive. If we wanted to hear what Reddit-tards think, we' be on Reddit. We come here for a higher level of non-censored discussion. This is not a place for his type of pathological authoritarian ilk, and candidly speaking it's not at all welcome...by my standards. However, it was okay to a degree by M7. I understood and accepted M7's viewpoint on the Socks matter.

      [–]neomarxist_bullshit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

      free advertisement for his twisted cookie cutter establishment narrative and thereby disrupting conversation

      Same with Reddit. There are anti-vaxers, "racists" etc. who are "disrupting the conversation" as well and they would like to get rid of them.

      We come here for a higher level of non-censored discussion.

      This is not a place for his type of pathological authoritarian ilk

      What an irony.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

      Who do you think socks was hurting on this site that's full of anti-system people?

      Everyone.

      Regulars were fed up with his shit. New folks were turned off. Truth-seekers were confused by him. Lonely folks were finding solace in his sketchy conversations. And tyranny is seeking any reason to stomp us - including for advocating violence. And Quakers will be forever maligned via guilt by association.

      [–]neomarxist_bullshit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

      New folks were turned off.

      How, if this is supposed to be a free speech site (or at least more free than Reddit)?

      You either support free speech for everyone or you just want your own echo chamber.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (2 children)

      It's never been a free-speech site. It's always been for free-thinking and truth-seeking. The problem is not "fear of different ideas" or echo chambers, as has been said to death. Bad faith liars and advocates for violence are not welcome.

      [–]neomarxist_bullshit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

      Bad faith liars

      Isn't that just another label for "people I disagree with"? On Reddit they call them "racists", "homophobes" and such.

      [–]JasonCarswell[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      Bad faith liars

      Isn't that just another label for "people I disagree with"?

      No.

      You should know there is a profound difference between someone who earnestly believes in a position with all its pros and cons and someone who deceives as a means to an end for whatever paycheck, zealot, or "justified" reasons they deem necessary.

      On Reddit they call them "racists", "homophobes" and such.

      I hope SaidIt is still better than Reddit where I refuse to spend time.

      [–]Blackbrownfreestuff 3 insightful - 3 fun3 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 3 fun -  (0 children)

      Yah I think she had a database of scripted responses and insults.