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[–]package 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

i dunno, maybe because they keep discovering 'new' oil deposits.

Believe it or not it is actually not trivial to find oil deposits even with modern technology, and once they are found it is also not trivial to access them. We can only guess at how many there actually are in a given area and how much each one holds based on geological, seismic, and gravimetric surveys.

and the dinosaur theory is just fucking stupid, again a cult group that closely guards its story

Why, in your opinion, are big versions of the lizards we have today a more likely explanation than big lizards that are unlike the ones we have today?

pyramids are poured granite. end of story.

That’s most certainly not the end of the story; why do you think the pyramids are poured granite? Did you know the pyramids are fairly close to an ancient quarry with pretty extensive evidence of their stone working processes? Not just tools, but various partially shaped/finished stones.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

deposits continue to be found, but the formation was said to be isolated. funny it is EVERYWHERE

Why, in your opinion, are big versions of the lizards we have today a more likely explanation than big lizards that are unlike the ones we have today?

why do i need a ridiculous explanation when a logical one appears before me? catfish can get to be hundreds of pounds. LIZARDS GROW UNTIL THEY DIE .. we killed them. it is simple. we don't give them the space or time to grow as big

That’s most certainly not the end of the story; why do you think the pyramids are poured granite? Did you know the pyramids are fairly close to an ancient quarry with pretty extensive evidence of their stone working processes? Not just tools, but various partially shaped/finished stones.

because it was proven by a scientist that is what it is. and the pyramids have evidence of being form poured.. they have 'lips' of granite material at the bottoms of the pyramid blocks. egyptologists can't explain such a weird formation. anyone that has poured concrete see it as obvious.

research it yourself . a made spent five years proving himself to the egyptologists, in the process discovering who likely invented it, and proving that over time the lack of materials led to shitty pyramids (there are many more than the 3) .. and eventually very little 'poured granite' as they ran out of the materials needed to mix with the slurry of nile mud . we have a method, we have a means.. all of which is more than most people believe we have .. some bullshit theory about thousands of slaves moving cut rocks from a quarry unknown .. using tools.. unknown..

pile of shit and you have trouble letting it go .. lol

[–]package 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Sounds like you’re the one with strong opinions that you’d never consider letting go, lol. Here’s a really interesting documentary which covers some of these topics extensively: https://youtu.be/j9w-i5oZqaQ. Regardless of whether you believe it or not I think you’ll find it interesting at least.

Doesn’t cover dinosaurs, but I would just mention that lizards are not immortal and definitely do not keep growing forever. Also given that dinosaur bones do not match any extant reptile, do you at least entertain the notion that the supposed ancient lizards that made them were different species than what currently exists? Are you just claiming that not all dinosaurs were as large as the fossils we’ve found?

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

spent 35 years thinking it was a ball.

when i went to find proof i discovered there was none

what proof can you give me that I can do right now to prove the ball earth?

no videos . no mainstream . no big gov . no big corp .

my proofs : gyroscope . airplanes fly in straight lines .

train tracks are level coast to coast in america .. aside for "grade up" and "grade down" for the hills/valleys ..

suez canal level for 100+ miles .. connecting to oceans .. wikipedia won't even attempt a page on the curvation of the earth.

go find the agreed upon formula for the curvation of the earth (that should be easy right? )

no, i don't need to watch more to find a way to 'bend the train tracks' that are clearly straight

[–]package 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

what proof can you give me that I can do right now to prove the ball earth?

Go to a dock at a beach with a pair of binoculars. A telescope even. Any time of day will do. Calm seas for best results. Watch a boat move away from you. The farther it is from you, the less of it will be visible, starting from the bottom. It will appear to be descending towards the horizon. Eventually it will no longer be visible. This is due to the curvature of the earth, and it's one of the ways even ancient civilizations were able to determine that the earth was round. If you don't have a beach near you, all you need is flat ground, a piece of cardboard, and a laser pointer. Mount the laser so it is pointing at the center of the cardboard. Move the cardboard away. The farther you move, the higher the laser dot will hit on the cardboard. Try this in different directions and/or locations for additional evidence.

airplanes fly in straight lines

Go get a ball. Draw a dot on the ball. Hold the ball so that the dot appears centered relative to your vision. Without rotating the ball, draw another dot anywhere else on the ball. You will see that it is perfectly possible to draw a straight between the points, relative to the surface of the ball.

suez canal level for 100+ miles .. connecting to oceans

Dude. Lmao. The earth's SURFACE is curved. We live on its surface, with gravity pulling us toward the center of the curve. It pulls everything, not just us. Land, water, air, everything is pulled to the center. This means that altitude itself is relative to the center of that curve. Having a canal connect two oceans on a curved earth does not mean that one ocean is higher or lower. Relative to the center of the earth, they are at the same altitude.

I know you're likely schizophrenic but if not I would really, really recommend that you just all of your opinions aside for a minute and just read about gravity. Wikipedia would be easiest but you can pick any source that doesn't presume a flat earth. Pretend what you're reading is describing a fictional reality if you need to, but just read it in full and then ask yourself if it seems plausible that such a force would explain a curved earth. Your answer might surprise you.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Go to a dock at a beach with a pair of binoculars.

Eventually it will no longer be visible. This is due to the curvature of the earth

incorrect. powerful telephoto lenses prove you wrong.

when a balloon was sent up and didn't find the curve then they claimed it could only be seen from "7 miles up"

so they sent a balloon up 7 miles .. still no go..

and for all the fools claiming they see it from a plane.. which is only 3.5 -5 miles up. silly folks will trick themselves into believing anything

Go get a ball. Draw a dot on the ball. Hold the ball so that the dot appears centered relative to your vision. Without rotating the ball, draw another dot anywhere else on the ball. You will see that it is perfectly possible to draw a straight between the points, relative to the surface of the ball.

omg.. what? the point is if we truly lived in a ball.. the airplanes and submarines would be REQUIRED to point their noses down as they move forward or GAIN ALTITUDE which clearly doesn't happen. the gyroscope that is used to level a plane, an altimeter, shows the plane as level.

The earth's SURFACE is curved

you just keep saying that, like if you do it will make it true?

We live on its surface, with gravity pulling us toward the center of the curve.

ya, well try and prove gravity next. totally unprovable bullshit. the 'forces' are supposedly so small you can't infer them unless at a 'planetary scale' ..

yet their dipshit theory only actually works for 2 planet systems. add in a third planet.. oops now model broke. THE WHOLE FUCKING MODEL IS BROKE

the majority just don't know it.

Land, water, air, everything is pulled to the center.

and yet a force i can easily calculate, that of spinning on let us say, a merry-go-round .. shows us a force that far out powers the bullshit gravity theory .. spin a ball full of water.. that is the reality if ball earth reality was real

I know you're likely schizophrenic

i see you are retarded

your opinions aside for a minute and just read about gravity

hilarious thing is these are NOT OPINIONS but the rock bottom reality of the bullshit you believe

just read it in full and then ask yourself if it seems plausible that such a force would explain a curved earth.

second most hilarious thing is you actually think you know what you are talking about, as if there is some evidence I have not seen for myself already that would somehow surprise me and 'force me to.. see your way'

my take is people like you never actually question reality . or are simply paid idiots . but i've seen both .. and i've also seen how people inherently realize the 'penalty' for going off on your own.

weaklings.

pathetic.

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Dude. You asked for proof that you “can do right now”. Don’t take my word for it. Literally go do either of the things I mentioned. Neither are difficult. The truth is well within your grasp. Go see it for yourself. And if you’re not afraid of some math you can experimentally measure acceleration from gravity using any heavy object and a stopwatch. With that you can easily verify or disprove not only the force of gravity itself but the size and mass of the earth right from the comfort of your desk. Again, the proof you seek is right in front of you if only you’d open your eyes and look.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

and you gave me stupid shit that you literally just made up that is the same bullshit that isn't true.

and LITERALLY NOONE is using it as proof, unless they don't know any better

i told you better .. and yet you still do it.

measure acceleration from gravity

no buoyancy is all that is required. sorry you aren't aware.

With that you can easily verify or disprove not only the force of gravity itself but the size and mass of the earth right from the comfort of your desk

every time you 'jump' you overcome this great force that can't be measured.

yet is supposed to be holding back the spinning force of a 'planet' .. and you are spinning at MACH 1+ right now. and forget all the other motions supposedly happening. yet you feel none of it. oh, and the models using it DON'T FUCKING WORK ..

Again, the proof you seek is right in front of you if only you’d open your eyes and look.

the fact you don't understand the implications and why your experiments only test visual perception and buoyancy ..

well that is literally why we have an argument, but you seem to think you have right on your side, and assume that your bullshit, lowlevel proofs are proofs

literally like asking a monkey to fix a motorcycle. and you smash motorcycle with a banana and claim you fixed it.

[–]package 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Look man I’m giving you simple, legitimate ways to observe the curvature of the earth, or if the earth has no curvature, observe the flatness and easily prove me wrong. If you just want to cover your eyes and plug your ears that’s your choice, but don’t pretend you’re doing anything different.

And you can actually very easily measure the force of gravity btw; not sure where you got it in your head that everyone just takes it for granted. At sea level, gravity is constantly accelerating all matter toward the center of the earth at approximately 32 feet per second, per second. Again you can derive this value yourself by dropping any heavy object (or light object in a vacuum, because air resistance) and seeing how long it takes to fall different distances.

I think your main misunderstanding is one of scale. Yes, the earth rotates quickly compared to speeds you normally encounter day to day. However, the earth is extremely large. Even rotating at nearly 1000 miles per hour, it takes an entire 24 hours to rotate once. That means over the course of just 1 hour, you are experiencing only 15 degrees of rotation around the earth. That’s .25 degrees per minute. AKA completely imperceptible, and since everything else including the atmosphere is also experiencing that motion, you obviously are not going to feel like you’re moving 1000mph because everything else is moving just as fast. And you aren’t flying off into space tangent to the earth’s surface, because gravity is easily counteracting that tiny bit of angular momentum and curving your trajectory back down.

[–]iDontShift 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

legitimate ways to observe the curvature of the earth

incorrect. just because it appears ships go over the horizon, or that because an object falls does not equal proof

observe the flatness and easily prove me wrong.

i do observe the flatness. and it is easily provable. GYROSCOPES STAY CONSTANT IN SPACE AND DON'T SHOW MOTION

you have given me optical illusions, i've given concreate evidence that requires mental masturbation to mangle into ball earth (the motion can't be detected.. because because because)

but don’t pretend you’re doing anything different.

you know the truth of what you do. i know i am being honest with myself.

And you can actually very easily measure the force of gravity btw

all matter toward the center of the earth at approximately 32 feet per second,

yet once an apple hits the water its stops.

and a balloon with hot air or helium goes up.

buoyancy explains it all, gravity isn't necessary

Even rotating at nearly 1000 miles per hour, it takes an entire 24 hours to rotate once

yawn. literally moving at mach 1 .. and turning a 'corner' very slowly yes... but a corner non-the-less .. and we should feel that .. we should be able to use a gryoscope to see it

none of these things are true.. and you still cling to crazy ideas ..

that the more you study the more they fall apart

like polaris .. above the north pole .. yet the earth supposedly moves MILLIONS of miles in orbit around the sun.

there is no 'polaris' like star in the south pole .. there is no star set that you can see all night long. .. things are different down there ..

literally the proofs that the ball earth is a projection of the satanic forces to make you into a slave for them

fight for the right to be slave. i find it rather amuzing. i know i am right. i have talk to and interacted with enough bullshit schill fucktards to be certain someone is paying these losers to argue with me because their arguments avoid all facts, and continue to retain the deluded vision that excludes new information as if it didn't exist

RAIL ROAD TRACKS ARE LEVEL COAST TO COAST IN THE UNITED STATES ..

WITH ONLY UPGRADES -- AND DOWNGRADES .. all always returning to level.

yawn. this fact cannot be disputed. this fact is beyond your stupid fucking boats.

this truth, that looking down a railroad tracks also sees it disappear into the distance, not because it went over anything

BUT BECAUSE OF THE HORIZON ... literal .. physical .. visual perception that just is