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Russia claims Ukraine behind fatal missile attack
submitted 2 years ago by AXXA from rt.com
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[–]neomarxist_bullshit 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago (15 children)
The Russia now isn't the Russia then
Just pointed out the fact that ex-communist countries have depots full of old Soviet stuff, and it's being given to Ukraine because they can operate it. (So the argument "but it's not in active use" is not very persuasive.)
My guess is it's similar in Russia - they still have their old equipment, because where would it go?
[–]Inuma 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (14 children)
You're free to think that but as explained, their stocks for the old one shows that they don't use that one. They use the Iskander one. So until you show something more convincing besides what they're currently using (including their hypersonic missiles), the point remains that Ukraine has the T-U in abundance which were more likely used by them in yet another provocation.
[–]neomarxist_bullshit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (13 children)
their stocks for the old one shows that they don't use that one
You're reiterating a moot point. Saying it multiple times doesn't make it true.
[–]Inuma 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (12 children)
You ignoring the stocks by your pedantry merely exposes how little you know of the issue of what they're using along with what Ukraine has in abundance.
[–]neomarxist_bullshit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (11 children)
You ignoring the stocks
I'm really surprised that on this site where every second person is a conspiracy theorist someone seriously insists that if something is not on some official list, it doesn't exist.
[–]Inuma 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (10 children)
I'm not surprised that a person ignorant of how military stocks work wants to insist on a false claim they can't back up.
[–]neomarxist_bullshit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (9 children)
ignorant of how military stocks work
Please explain. Why exactly can't Russia still have their old equipment?
[–]Inuma 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (8 children)
Because it would have to be retrofitted as explained along with the serial numbers linking to a unit.
As explained.
[–]neomarxist_bullshit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (7 children)
Sorry but the tweet is just a statement and explains nothing.
How would it have to be retrofitted exactly? My guess is they have everything they need - the missiles and launchers. Wikipedia even suggests there was a military parade in Russia in 2009 where they had these missiles including the launchers on display. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OTR-21_Tochka
How is the serial number relevant? You know you can paint any serial number you want if you were to do a false flag attack, right?
[–]Inuma 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (6 children)
So instead, you ignored who shot the missile.
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