Caitlyn Jenner dismisses criticism of trans athlete stance: I 'had the balls to stand up for women' in sports

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[–][deleted] 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

Jenner would take his balls out of women's spaces and take off his woman costume if he truly cared about women.

[–]AXXA 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How does Jenner living as a women affect biological women? She's not participating in women's sports. It's her right to live her private life how she wants to live. If you truly cared about her then you would respect her right to live how she wants to live.

[–]Jackalope 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

If you truly cared about her then you would respect her right to live how she wants to live.

I do, I personally don't care what other people do when it doesn't violate anyone else's rights. I do not desire to stop people from becoming trans if they desire, nor do I want to limit their rights in any way. They should be free to live how they want.

However, I generally agree with what NoMorePatriarchy is saying here regarding forcing other people to use language and pronouns that conform to someone else's ideas about gender. I have no problem tolerating this, but demanding I use made-up nonsense pronouns like 'they' or 'zhe' starts becoming totalitarian. I am even willing to be respectful and not use the 'wrong' pronouns, (I tend to not use pronouns at all, and just use the name in these situations) but a sex change does not make anyone a woman in my eyes (I wouldn't have sex with one, and that should not make me a bigot).

[–]AXXA 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I agree. For me generally speaking, freedom of speech is paramount. The speaker has a right to use the pronouns that expresses their thoughts. If the speaker wants to express respect for how a person lives their life then they will try to use a pronoun that matches. But if they have other thoughts they want to express then a different pronoun might be better suited. It's up to the speaker to decide how they want to express themselves. Every person has the right to freedom of speech.