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[–]jet199 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Frankly I think the time has passed for the US to intervene.

I think the issue with weakness is not that Biden wouldn't go to war but that he wouldn't even threaten it. Trump is quite pro-Putin but he easily told the Russians that if they tried to take Keiv he would hit Moscow, in an off hand way. However we just had both the US and the EU blatantly say for weeks they wouldn't do a single thing if Russia invaded so of course that's what they did. This stuff isn't hard, you have to be able to talk tough if you are leading a country whether you can back it up or not. That's your first defence.

[–]StillLessons 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Fully agree. I wish I could upvote this to the top of the board.

The solution to Russian aggression in Ukraine is not western aggression in Ukraine. This is true regardless of which side of the propaganda line one lies on. We have blatant propaganda coming from both the Russian and the US/Davos sides. Neither story represents any "good guys". The idea that the west entering this fight directly is the "solution" to any problem is suicidally stupid. What's the plan? Invade Russia? Having been invaded multiple times, Russia is quite clear in their message, "we will destroy the world before we allow ourselves to be invaded again." This is not a bluff. The Russian state considers nuclear war no worse than what the Russian population suffered in prior invasions they have endured.

Note that there has been a rapid countermovement (though not yet overwhelmingly large) to the state's Ukraine actions within Russia itself:

https://news.antiwar.com/2022/02/24/over-1000-arrested-in-antiwar-protests-across-russia/

Peskov's daughter is included among those against their current actions. Let the people of Russia stop their state.

The war machine in US/Davos is every bit as evil as the war machine in Russia. Both of these machines need to be stopped, and that will never be accomplished by feeding either to defeat the other.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Remember the last time someone went around empire building in Europe?

[–]IkeConn 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Now days the Democrats regret stuffing the ballot boxes.