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Appreciate the reply, its not often I get a chance to discuss race without dogmatism and strong feelings making it difficult.

Nobody shits on Japan for wanted to remain Japanese.

I get this, and I think there is a very strong case to be made for homogeneity of people making governing smoother. My counter question has more to do with how we are defining an 'ethnic' group. A state of Japanese people, to me is analogous to a state of German people, or Irish people, this a real 'ethnic' group. However, I would say something like white-nationalism is more akin to a state of 'all asians'. There is not as much of a cultural, genetic, or historical 'sameness' here, and I would also say that an Asian Ethno-State that didn't discriminate between Japanese and Korean would sound very strange to me in the same why white nationalism does. I guess what I am saying is, I am not so sure how to define an 'ethnic group' in terms of this ideology, it seems less than clear to me precisely how to draw this distinction.

I don't want to live in a black neighborhood, hearing gun shots every day, not being able to go out at night, not being able to safely leave a gate. I've lived in some ghetto ass areas and I pay a lot not to now. Is that racist?

No, definitely not. In my mind it becomes racism only if you prefer a neighborhood of poor white criminals to wealthy law-abiding blacks. I wouldn't say there is anything 'wrong' with this, people can prefer whatever they like, but I think it be quite stupid, and would qualify as 'racism'. If racism stopped here, I wouldn't really have a problem with it, but when ideologies are centered around beliefs like this, they seem to become harmful in ways that transcend self-segregation.

Would you go down a dark alleyway with a black guy there, just to prove you're not racist? Would you mind if your wife or daughter did? What percentage, what threshold of potential harm satisfies racial sensitivity. Or is the smart thing just not to walk down a dark alleyway at night. I think we just need to accept that black people are more prone to violence and act accordingly and not condemn what's common sense out of concern for people's feelings.

Here I actually agree with you, it makes sense to apply a probabilistic heuristic in this case. I would certainly avoid the alley with unknown black man in it, and make sure my family did too.

Also completely agree that the racial sensitivity is at an outrageous level, and by no means would I want to endorse any sort of wokism. I personally think there is a line where racism and wokism both go too far. I admit I'm not exactly sure where the lines are myself, but I appreciate being able to converse with someone objectively about this

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Appreciate the reply, its not often I get a chance to discuss race without dogmatism and strong feelings making it difficult.

It is something that we as a nation should have more honest discussions about.

My counter question has more to do with how we are defining an 'ethnic' group

I figure that'd have to be up to the community. An ethnostate isn't my dream. Some nationalists are far more inclusive than others. I think at one end you have people open to everyone who assimilates, like the Germans, Irish, and even Hispanics together, etc... and on the other is the scary Aryan dudes.

Most of the people in my area are of Hispanic descent but identify as white. I don't think it's far fetched at all. The asian races can't really mix because they generally hate each other, but that's more of an outlier than the norm.