Terrorist killed and hostages rescued in Texas synagogue standoff

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[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

No ad hominems against your fellow saidittors are allowed https://saidit.net/s/SaidIt/comments/j1/the_saiditnet_terms_and_content_policy/

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Ad hominem means "You're wrong because you're retarded", "You're wrong because you're racist" or "You're wrong because you're white male" or "You're wrong because you're X".

Statement like "[insert an actual argument here], retard" is not an ad hominem.

Original comment is much closer to ad hominem than Markimus' response.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

What about this one?

The hell are you talking about retard?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Could let admins edit posts, then offensive words could simply be removed, preserve the overall content, and avoid conflict. Of course there's the danger an admin could simply start destroying content either en masse, subversively throughout the years, or simply through good intentions.

Admin edits would obviously have to be marked too.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That sounds like a quick path to a Spez nation. But I do like the idea that admins should re-post whatever they remove with the offending section removed.

But this is all squeezing blood out of a turnip.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Any why are you whining so fucking hard about a warning that got handed out at the end of the internet?

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I just saw the reply, and I often see people misusing the term ad hominem.

[–]Markimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

Fantastic! So where is jet199's warning? My use of an insult was merely in response to him attacking me first, if he had not attacked me my rule-breaking comment wouldn't even exist. It's a classic case of self defence, and then the victim being blamed; feels like the UK legal system over here.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

He didn't call you a retard or a racist did he? He implied you were racist with an argument. We battle with arguments here, not insults.

[–]Markimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

My comment

Al Qaeda don't attack jews. Like antifa and ISIS, they're organised by jews.

His comment

It's cute you have so much racism towards Arabs you think they can't organise a single thing for themselves.

There's no implication or argument there. He literally just insulted me based on nothing. My comment didn't disparage Arabs whatsoever. There's really no reason to lie about this, bizarre.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Don't call people retards. It's as simple as that. If you can't handle this or understand this, then you are on the wrong site.

[–]Markimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If someone punches me, I punch them back. It's not my fault your admins do a horrendous job with selective enforcement of the rules.

It's a good thing you run a website and not a legal system because you would be brutal tyrants much like the victim-punishing UK legal system. Shocking display honestly.

You're coming at me for responding to provocation, absurd.

[–]AXXA[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

Do you believe in the equality of all races? Do you believe all races can integrate and intermarry?

[–]Markimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

You realise how stupid this is? You're saying if one can be subjectively deemed to fit a slur then it's ok to call them that slur.

By this logic I can subjectively deem him to be retarded and call him a retard and it doesn't break the rules. Do better.

[–]AXXA[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I'm not subjectively deeming you anything. I'm asking you to state your beliefs so that I can understand. If you believe in the equality of all races then I will give a warning to jet199.

[–]Markimus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I'm not subjectively deeming you anything.

Proceeds to ask whether I fit a subjective standard that would mean the pyramid of debate no longer applies to me. Very cool!

By this logic if a user is identified as (insert race) it's perfectly fine to call them a (insert racial slur for that race), because then they fit the slur. Absurdity. Also the funniest part about this is that means my subjective assertion that he's a retard is perfectly valid according to your fucked up logic and then I also didn't break the rules.

I'm asking you to state your beliefs so that I can understand.

Even if I was some cartoon KKK comic book villain he would have still broken the rules. There's nothing to understand except that you have some insane cognitive bias.

If you believe in the equality of all races then I will give a warning to jet199.

This makes literally zero logical sense. If I don't fit your subjective standard of racist, then he broke the rules; but if I do, he didn't break them..? Crazy amount of mental gymnastics required to square this circle.

[–]AXXA[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If 'racism' is an offensive word to describe the belief that all races are not equal then what is a non-offensive word to describe that belief?

[–]Markimus 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Who said anything about any races being equal or unequal? He simply called me a slur that was totally unsubstantiated. I shouldn't have to prove that I don't fit your subjective definition for what that means to determine whether he broke the rules or not.

I can't believe this has to be explained to you multiple times, it seems very obvious to me.

So now if I say all races are equal he's magically broke the rules? Ok then all races are equal. /u/d3rr, see buddy? Now jet199 broke the rules so I'm off the hook. What a load of old pony.

[–]AXXA[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

/u/jet199 you hurt /u/Markimus feelings when you implied that he is a racist. /u/Markimus believes in the equality of all races and supports the integration and intermarrying of all races. Please don't imply that he is a racist.