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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

I am very sorry to hear of your aunt's passing. I would agree that - in geographic locations where patients and doctors aren't appropriately looking or tracking - it's very difficult to track 'causation' for vaccines and subsequent myocarditis or pericarditis, which would mean that we don't have thorough global statistics. In a number of 1st world countries, however, those who've taken the vaccine are asked to report back the second they feel a side effect, and indeed have to sit anw wait for 15 minutes after a jab before leaving a facility. The monitoring was reliable enough that a number of people under age 35 were reported to have myocarditis (in the Netherlands or Denmark?) in late 2020/early 2021. The result was the pulling of the vaccine (Astra-Zenica?) from distribution in that country and the avoidance of offering it to people under 35. The Israel article is related to those early concerns, and was provided here only because of a lazy search. If you look for - myocarditis pericarditis vaccine - you'll see much more helpful information: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccination-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-information-for-healthcare-professionals/information-for-healthcare-professionals-on-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-following-covid-19-vaccination . I think that NHS information is helpful, particularly as a way of showing how commen myocarditis has become, and showing that this can be a problem potentially for younger people, c. 12-19 years of age, though only in miniscule numbers of a few hundred per million. Other websites include more information about this research.

I don't think there is a conspiracy to hide side effects or not to address them, as medical professionals and scientists working with virology and vaccines over the past 100 years genuinely want to safely reduce the spread of viruses. To assume otherwise is to assume that many people in these professions are literally sociopaths. Propaganda news media want to spread paranoia, pessimism, hate and fear by implying that there are so many bad actors in these professions that you would be in serious danger were you to take the vaccine.

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a number of 1st world countries, however, those who've taken the vaccine are asked to report back the second they feel a side effect

Not in the US, I don't know what country you mean here. I bet the average American doesn't know a damn thing about VAERs.

If you look for - myocarditis

Look for it without searching for the vaccine also. Huge uptick of cardiac events not linked currently to the vaccine.

indeed have to sit anw wait for 15 minutes after a jab before leaving a facility.

As far as I can tell that's because hypertension is a very common effect from the vaccine. We'd have even more patients dying if they didn't do that.

there is a conspiracy to hide side effects or not to address them

You mean not this time. They did that with the other drugs but never this one....

Propaganda

I think you're on the side of the propaganda here. There's billions at stake for the vaccine crowd. There's just not the same financial incentive to fight against the vaccine as there is to blindly support it. There isn't big ivermectin money. That drug is cheap as shit. There's big money against it though on your side.

literally sociopaths.

Doctors had no issues prescribing cox-2 inhibitors even though the data was sketchy. They have no problem still prescribing antidepressants although the data looks bad. I harp on those a lot because they're really big issues. How do you think they fucked the patients over for the last 30 years but suddenly had a change of heart to do good?

Your position is becoming increasingly indefensible.

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Your position is becoming increasingly indefensible.

Not in the least. Problems you mention here are associated with bad medical practice, which - in the cases you mention - relates to some ongoing fiduciary problems with the medical profession. For example, I agree that the field of psychiaatry inappropriately over-prescribes antidepressants, and for this there has been several backlashes against this practice since the 1970s.

But fiduciary irresponsiblity in the psychiatric profession is very different from the exact science of virology and the implementation of vaccine programs.

My comments are specifically about medical science, virlogists, and the science of virology, and how there is no known motivation to get that wrong, for three reasons: (1) it's not what scientists want, and (2) if it fails, it's abandoned, and (3) scientists are, by necessity, always watching the global trends and statistics and making adjustments to those.

Of course there will be unethical humans, bad practicioners, and corrupt corporations, but global efforts ot develop, test and use vaccines are part of a check and balance system that keep the process focused on the best available vaccine science. It is very important to disconnect the human foibles from the collaboration of scientific expertise, as the latter naturally reduces instances of the former.

Another part of my answer to your comments I sent to d3rr, here.

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My references are only to "medical professionals and scientists"

I was a medical professional, the wife still is.

over-prescribes

No, not over prescribing. They forced an entire class of drugs through approval based on shoddy science. Antidepressants do not work.

But fiduciary irresponsiblity in the psychiatric profession is very different from the exact science of virology and the implementation of vaccine programs.

Most of medicine in the US is performed by general physicians.

exact science of virology

Flu shot. Cough cough cough

if it fails, it's abandoned

We're waiting. The writing is on the wall. The vaccine is a big fat failure. It's like the flu shot, the wrong strain too late that might help you recover faster. It's not just science at this point, it's team sport politics.