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[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

Myocarditis is an adverse cardiac event but it's not the only one, and it goes to reason that not all possible events have even been considered to be a possible vaccine complication. One of my Aunts, not the cancer one, but a different one unexpectedly died of a blocked valve. She had health issues, so nobody was shocked she died, but her heart wasn't one of them. Everyone was surprised that was what the surgeons needed to operate on. But only in passing has anyone considered it might have anything to do with her being vaccinated. How many people like that are there?

We'd need to look at all the cardiac events to see if the vaccine was a possible cause/ correlated, not take the word of an early study from Israel as gospel.

The studies, published this week in The New England Journal of Medicine, analysed data from Israeli residents aged 16 and older who received at least one dose of the COVID-19 vaccine made by drug company Pfizer in New York City and biotechnology firm BioNTech in Mainz, Germany, between December 2020 and May 2021.

Candidate for s/shitpostnews ;)

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

I am very sorry to hear of your aunt's passing. I would agree that - in geographic locations where patients and doctors aren't appropriately looking or tracking - it's very difficult to track 'causation' for vaccines and subsequent myocarditis or pericarditis, which would mean that we don't have thorough global statistics. In a number of 1st world countries, however, those who've taken the vaccine are asked to report back the second they feel a side effect, and indeed have to sit anw wait for 15 minutes after a jab before leaving a facility. The monitoring was reliable enough that a number of people under age 35 were reported to have myocarditis (in the Netherlands or Denmark?) in late 2020/early 2021. The result was the pulling of the vaccine (Astra-Zenica?) from distribution in that country and the avoidance of offering it to people under 35. The Israel article is related to those early concerns, and was provided here only because of a lazy search. If you look for - myocarditis pericarditis vaccine - you'll see much more helpful information: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/covid-19-vaccination-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-information-for-healthcare-professionals/information-for-healthcare-professionals-on-myocarditis-and-pericarditis-following-covid-19-vaccination . I think that NHS information is helpful, particularly as a way of showing how commen myocarditis has become, and showing that this can be a problem potentially for younger people, c. 12-19 years of age, though only in miniscule numbers of a few hundred per million. Other websites include more information about this research.

I don't think there is a conspiracy to hide side effects or not to address them, as medical professionals and scientists working with virology and vaccines over the past 100 years genuinely want to safely reduce the spread of viruses. To assume otherwise is to assume that many people in these professions are literally sociopaths. Propaganda news media want to spread paranoia, pessimism, hate and fear by implying that there are so many bad actors in these professions that you would be in serious danger were you to take the vaccine.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

To assume otherwise is to assume that many people in these professions are literally sociopaths.

There are countless (figure of speech) reports of doctors and other medical personal being censored, threatened, and losing their medical license for reporting vaccine issues.

People are retarded, but they're not necessarily stupid when it comes to recognizing threats to their own wellbeing. Not only is there massive money and power behind this, it's clearly coordinated worldwide. You wouldn't need to be a sociopath to see which way the wind is blowing.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Reports from where? Are your sources trustworthy? Is the information corroborated by other sources? There isn't a secret global conspiracy to actively harm people with vaccines. We know this because we have access to the scientific data, and because we know that this is not the tradition with virology or the medical profession. To assume that all of this has recently changed, globally, in order to harm people, is ridiculous.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Reports from where? Are your sources trustworthy?

It's like you're claiming to be on a different internet.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

It's like you're not reading anything scientific.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I've read scientific studies on the numbers of "scientists" who publish for pay, just make shit up, and value money over truth. I certainly don't worship science.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

No one should worship science, as that would be the opposite purpose of its use (to avoid relying on blind faith, even if science has been developed by religious people).

Scientists who publish for direct payments are rare, but you can see obvious corporate sponsors of major scientific grants and programs who are definitely influencing the direction of the research, even if it has to be scientifically sound in order to work or make sense.