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China Slams George Soros, Declares Him A ‘Global Economic Terrorist’
submitted 2 years ago by Rob3122 from en-volve.com
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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (13 children)
Rob - this is a 'commentary' in The Global Times, which the China government has allowed to be in the news media, and many in the government might agree with the commentary, but it's not an official statement by the government of China. This post title and en-volve.com are misleading, at best, or also false.
Thank you, however, for the en-volve.com link, as I hadn't known of the website. Seems it belongs in the /s/ShitpostNews list. I'll keep reading.
And regarding the potential conservative mantra of 'the enemy of my enemy is my friend', one would think that Soros's support for Hong Kong, and the way that he angered China (gov), is very good. He supports very good causes, especially causes that are pro-democracy. So the right-wing hatred for Soros is also revealing of how much people on the 'right' want to reduce democracy, to reduce your role in the potential improvement of government legislation against the abuses of corporate and wealthy donors. Follow the money.
[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago (12 children)
A rich person pushing their favorite polices through with their money, lobbying and astroturfing is anti-democratic no matter what those policies are.
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (11 children)
Certainly not if it supports democratitic causes.
[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago (10 children)
Nope.
Clearly one man pushing his own beliefs on everyone else is undemocratic by the very definition.
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (9 children)
Are you trying to get me to believe something that's this ridiculous, or do you genuinely believe it?
(If the latter, keep in mind that there are numerous wealthy doners who support initiatives that help democracies develop and the rule of the 99% over the 1%, just as there are numerous donors who support initiatives that ruduce the role of the 99% in a democracy, so that the 1% can abuse the 99% for temporary gain. Search 'corporate' 'donors', and search 'wealthy' 'donors'. The extent to which right-wing propaganda helps people believe what you wrote is quite worrying. It's not logical or based on factual information.)
[–]jet199 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago (8 children)
You simply don't understand what democracy is.
It's not the outcome you personally think is good.
That's not right wing propaganda.
Can you even give an example of a supposed pro democracy policy promoted by Soros?
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (7 children)
Really - that's the conversation we're supposed to have? High School civics? You telling me what I know or don't know? How is that an adult conversation?
This is irrelevant. It's not at issue.
You can easily locate this, because it's the #1 aim of his foundations (to put the 99% back in control of their nations):
https://money.cnn.com/2017/10/17/news/george-soros-18-billion-open-society-foundations/index.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/george-soros-open-society-foundations-pro-democracy-donate-billions-hungarian-american-a8007431.html
https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/who-we-are
The Open Society Foundations, founded by George Soros, are the world’s largest private funder of independent groups working for justice, democratic governance, and human rights. We provide thousands of grants every year through a network of national and regional foundations and offices, funding a vast array of projects—many of them now shaped by the challenges of the COVID-19 pandemic.
[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago (1 child)
That's like saying the Democratic Republic of Korea is a democracy because it's in the name.
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (0 children)
Right - not really much to discuss....
[–]jet199 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun - 2 years ago (4 children)
That's the same logic as saying the Democratic Republic of Korea is a democracy because it's in the name.
If you actually read the news articles you link to you'll see they actually refute your argument. Multiple democratically elected government of all kinds see Soros's foundation working to undermine them and they speak out about it often.
So again, what are the specific pro democratic policies he promotes?
I've seen myself the Open Society try to censor and deny free speech around the trans debate. They are illiberal as soon as someone disagree with them. Even in your link they are really proud of promoting the idea of hate crimes and hate speech which allows the powerful to bring the force of the state down on people they don't like. https://www.hoover.org/research/sordid-origin-hate-speech-laws
So much for democracy.
[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (3 children)
No - Jet - there's no need for all of this. Soros has pro-democracy foundations. Why turn this information into something it isn't. This is exhausting...
[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun - 2 years ago (2 children)
Soros funded the campaigns of the DA's who refused to prosecute violent rioters all last summer. He takes his morning dump in democracies breakfast.
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