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[–]ActuallyNot 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (27 children)

This is the only correct way forward. The honour system isn't going to work.

From my interactions with the anti-vax movement, I strongly suspect that many people who refuse to get vaccinated would also be quite happy to lie about it and not wear a mask.

[–]FuckMasks 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (26 children)

Your point? You think people shouldn't have a choice?

Of course people will protect their right to preserve their body as is, aka 'un vaxed', aka organic. By whatever means necessary. The masks don't do shit. It is abundantly apparent, since you're still pushing them- are you a paid liar or just a complete moron?

[–]Sendnoodles 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (25 children)

You rights don't include making others sick. As you said, people can choose what to do with their bodies. I choose to take care of mine and it isn't your right to fuck that up because you choose not to use the brain that was included with yours.

People who are constantly screaming about their rights have a tendency it seems to forget, others have rights as well.

[–]RightousBob 6 insightful - 3 fun6 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 3 fun -  (6 children)

How many sock puppet accounts do you have? Look at the low IQ shill brigade screech over criticism of a msm talking point. Just quit now. You losers aren't pulling any sway with your preprepared msm/big pharma rhetoric. Plus these fascist policies are already failing. The fact that paid actors like yourself are showing up here on Saidit proves how desperate your side is, and how poorly you are losing the fight.

[–]Sendnoodles 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

My guy. I've got one account. Just because more than one person realizes just how fucking dumb you are doesn't mean they're all the same person. Listen to the shit you're saying. It's not hard to discredit you. Of course more than one person will think so.

But enjoy your Koch bux. Don't spend them all in one place.

[–]RightousBob 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Don't worry, I'm not the only one around here that smells the stench of shill on your days old account. Or maybe it's the sad smell of a borderline semi functional NPC.

[–]ActuallyNot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Yeah, you are.

You're completely paranoid, and on your own about that.

[–]RightousBob 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Like flys to a pile of dogshit you shills are. I'm sure the sock puppet situation comes naturally to a schizo like AN. Take your lithium yet?

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

They all are u/greencappy's alts

[–]Sendnoodles 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

My account isn't days old. Dude if you don't like me, just stop responding. You're not saying anything of substance. Try changing my mind with good points if you're so sure of yourself.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

You don't have the ability to force the entire world to take this experimental shot. Stop whining. You do not stand on the moral high ground.

[–]Sendnoodles 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes. Actually the government does. Good luck doing anything after you refuse to take it.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

You are siding with the Empire, fool.

[–]FollowTheMoney 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

My rights dont end where your fears begin. Besides if the vaccines work why do you care whether other people do not have it? Allegedly you should be fine right, so jog on.

[–]Sendnoodles 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

It's not fears, it's facts. I'm sorry (though not suprised) you aren't able to distinguish the difference.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

If they were facts, then all of us anti-maskers would be sick and dying.

[–]Sendnoodles 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I know you don't believe it, but......... a lot of you are.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I know it isn't true because I travel often for my job, and I discuss things with people from every walk of life. My story is a similar one to others that I hear. My grandfather was accidentally killed out of negligence after getting diagnosed with covid-19, a fucking cold, and my grandmother asked for an autopsy, and was denied one. They didn't care about the other issues he was experiencing there at the end. He was cremated before anything like a cause of death could be determined. My story is only one of many. People who aren't gobbling up the media narrative experience life far differently than those who do.

You can't gaslight my experiences away.

[–]Sendnoodles 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence. Disagreeing with you isn't "gaslighting." That's something a redditor would say. We're all here to get away from that kind of thing. Stop acting like a redditor. It's also not gaslighting if what I said is true. You've insulated yourself into a little bubble and won't let anything in that doesn't agree with the worldview decided to have rather than looking at real world evidence and making a decision based on than.

You can believe what you like, but it doesn't change reality. Anti-maskers are getting covid and dying left and right.

https://www.nola.com/news/coronavirus/article_87489d82-4a47-11eb-9583-f3e4fa6891c1.html

https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2021/02/05/catholic-priest-catches-covid-19-after-refusing-to-wear-a-mask-on-spains-costa-blanca/

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2020/12/08/943990136/what-changes-minds-about-masks-in-this-small-town-it-was-a-childs-death

https://twitter.com/DWUhlfelderLaw/status/1346158613732220929

https://www.kmov.com/news/2-days-after-voting-to-not-require-masks-covid-19-shuts-down-the-missouri-house/article_da88fb87-74f0-587b-aab5-5f9e374a4f10.html

https://www.politico.com/news/2021/04/15/proud-boy-pepper-spray-capitol-riot-482172

https://boingboing.net/2021/04/06/montana-governor-lifted-the-states-mask-mandate-now-he-has-covid-19.html?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=montana-governor-lifted-the-states-mask-mandate-now-he-has-covid-19

https://imgur.com/a/UF43zmj

https://www.wxyz.com/news/ted-nugent-tests-positive-for-covid-19-after-saying-its-not-a-real-pandemic

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/06/17/us/group-tests-positive-florida-bar/index.html

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-usa-cain/herman-cain-former-republican-presidential-candidate-dies-after-covid-19-diagnosis-idUSKCN24V2OD

Do you want more? Cause I can give you more.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Yes, keep giving me more. This is really convincing. /s

I'll trust my own experience, thank you.

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Agreed.

At this point I am just waiting for Darwin to take care of the anti-vax crowd. They've earned it.

Unfortunately there are also people that cannot be vaccinated due to legitimate medical needs, and the children who have not received it yet. My 12 year old just got his first shot.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

If this pandemic had any real bearing, then anti-maskers would be dead in the street. They'd fill the hospitals. Anti-vaxxers would simply have to change their minds, because they'd be sick and dying.

"My twelve year old just got his first shot." You are either raising a sheep, or a malcontent. He will either be a stupid follower like you, or resent the fucking hell out of you after he comes to.

[–]yetanotherone_sigh 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

That's entirely within your rights to say...

But I had Covid-19 and it gave me all kinds of problems. If you are familiar with the symptoms of long covid, I had a whole list of them, such as a pulmonary embolism and a stroke. I am otherwise healthy and have had no cardiovascular issues my whole life. I have had shortness of breath for 6 months. I wouldn't wish that on anybody. As an anecdote, I work with a guy that now has 55% lung capacity due to permanent scarring because of covid.

For what it's worth, our 12 year old made the decision himself with the insight and assistance from 2 parents and a step parent.

So it's your right if you want to not take the shot and risk getting sick. There is a meme going around today of a cop who was anti-vax and said "I have an immune system, I don't need a vaccination". He died of Covid yesterday. The irony is thick but I feel sorry for his family. There have been a bunch of these including politicians.

I'm curious if you feel this way about other vaccinations you get when you're a child. When I was in elementary school many years ago, they didn't allow you to say no. You got the shot, or you weren't allowed to attend public school. This was for MMR and other common vaccinations at the time. How say you?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I say that you are confused.

When I was a kid, I got a sinus and ear infection. It progressed really fast because I just didn't complain about my symptoms until I was shitting myself every night. The doctors thought I had cancer for an entire month. They almost killed me while they tested me for cancer and did all sorts of odd delays so I could see specific doctors.

I almost died because of their malpractice. What your case sounds like is you were misdiagnosed, mistreated, and will now deal with chronic issues because of it. As you said, we can believe what we want to believe.

The fucking difference is that you want the government to dictate how we live our lives based off of these beliefs of ours. You get to believe what you want because the government agrees with it.

I'm fucked just because I'll never trust those rat bastards again, unless I know them personally. They almost killed me. They did kill my grandfather, and they kept my family from being at his bedside, and they cremated him before a proper autopsy was done. This is why folks like me don't care for bootlickers anymore. We are sick of this non-action and willful ignorance.

How say you?

[–]FuckMasks 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

They DO actually include that!

I will go around breathing free all I please. YOU go take experimental shots & go hide in your house if you're so afraid. Do us all a favor and don't come out.

[–]Sendnoodles 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If they include that, then stop complaining about vaccine passports, getting kicked out of stores and restaurants, etc.

[–]cant_even 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

rights don't include making others sick

Except when shitholes like California won't even prosecute intentional spreading of AIDS, and shitholes like Texas don't even dispatch cops for robbery and burglary the same day they splash the arrest of a beautician all over the media, it kind of demolishes the concept of 'public responsibility', dosn't it?