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[–]Osiriskills88 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ya Im sure lockdowns, job losses, people falling into poverty, crime rates rising, many things other than a virus, would have any affect on people dying! Rolls Eyes* When things like the great depression occurred, I don't think anyone would be surprised if the death rate rose 20% throughout years of such struggle. On top of it, elderly people must be truly hurting if they are forced into isolation and are unable to see their family for a year plus. I would assume such isolation would probably cause elderly people such harm that the may even pass away from such traumas they are forced into by their "caretakers". Ive lost elderly people in my family this year, and it wasn't from any virus. I will say that much.

[–]InvoluntaryHalibut 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Lockdowns, job losses, people falling into poverty, crime rates rising, many things other than a virus, would have any affect on people dying!

No that would not increase the death count 20%.

Besides you can see the age of people who are dying. There has not been large increase of deaths in people in age groups that tend to die from crime and people who are working age that lost jobs.

Im sure that some old people have died from increased isolation but it aint 20%.

Several people I know died this year. Two were old people who did not die of covid. One was cut off from friends and family in a nursing home, one was not. I know 3 other relatively healthy older people who died of covid. I also know two younger people who died of covid.

These arguments are fucking riduculous. You must be living on a mountaintop to not know anyone who has died from covid at this point. Why don’t you just admit that this is way worse that the flu and millions of old people are dying from it?

You are trapped in this hegelian dialect where you think if you acknowlege that this is a bad virus that it means you have to support lockdowns and mandatory face diapers and shit. It absolutely doesn’t.