The vaccines don't prevent infection according to the white papers and official sources, they just reduce severity of symptoms. Meanwhile the flu went from 38,000,000 cases to 1,822... if you believe that... This might be the dumbest moment in human history...

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[–]RightousBob 8 insightful - 3 fun8 insightful - 2 fun9 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

Sadly many people are stupid fucking cattle. So stupid in fact that even when they are faced with the worst of it all, most of them will still be oblivious to just how fucked they truly are.

[–]jet199 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

People aren't dumb, they just believe whatever is expedient at the time.

Many people just like sitting at home, doing nothing, avoiding stress and people. They got given a great excuse to do that.

[–]Nemacolin 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I agree. I think this is very educational. When faced with a horrible worldwide disease, many people are unable or unwilling to face this fact. They argue the the facts they can see with their own eyes are simply not true, the cannot be true, they must not be true.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Would you say the 'elite' are right about the 90-99%?

Is it not that bad, or would you rather not give them any credit?

[–]christnmusicreleases[S] 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

Sadly, yes they are right in a sense, but I don't think the masses deserve to die solely for being sheeple. I guess it's a Darwinian fate for those who make bad choices.

[–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Realistically, most of the masses are not even qualified or capable of choosing where they fit into the societal hierarchy. That perspective is not exactly the optimal route to a life of blissful happiness. Actual reality is pretty Darwinian.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Let's not forget TPTB manipulated education globally for decades. Declining test scores year over year.

Forced both parents to work.

Children now raised in daycares.

Relocated the best and brightest away from their families and home towns through corporate career advancements, etc..

The public has been under corporate assault from a one-sided war for over a century.

This is victim blaming, (it was done to us) and it is possible to correct.
Although many in the public will fight to keep on their comfy chains.

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I'm not confident that people who've tolerated all of this will suddenly become entirely different people, but I'd like to be surprised.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

but I'd like to be surprised.

I'm choosing "optimism of the heart".

"Pesimissm of the mind" was chosen for me by the aggressive mask wearing morons.

[–]Feldheld 8 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 0 fun9 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Half the people trust the media like people used to trust their church. The media are the new mainstream church which gives them incredible power over people. Thats why so many politicians kowtow before them even on the right.

I know so many people who are intelligent and educated and still cant even dream of distrusting the media. They simply cant imagine how corrupt they are. Theyre like hypnotized. I have the huge advantage that I never had a TV. I know no other person privately who doesnt own a TV. Many claim they hardly ever watch it but still they blindly trust most of the fake news.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Half the people trust the media like people used to trust their church.

There is a lot of truth to this.

Atheism has converted to sciencism.

Maybe people really do need something to fill the gaps of unknowns.

[–]Feldheld 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Totally. The media filled the faith vaccuum. And they have indeed become powerful enough to even try and swollow up science. Many fields have already fallen, only the hard sciences are still fighting.

The consequences are dire. We are basically rolling back 500 years of cultural progress. In 2020 we threw all achievements of enlightenment out of the window and we are again a primitive medieval culture ruled by fear, superstition, and the church. It will take years for most people to realize whats happening in the big picture and how apocalyptic this will be for the world as they know it. We have by far not seen the end of this nightmare.

[–]1hairlessmonkey 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It is the dumbest moment in human history. Sad but too true

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

Only an idiot would believe the flu went away.

Also, the wax doesn't do anything helpful to any individual.
With pseudoscience anyone can claim the symptoms would have been worse, or whatever.

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    [–]Tom_Bombadil 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    listen to the scientists..

    Exactly. Except all of the honest scientific experts have been censored.

    Censored science is essentially propaganda.

    [–]Feelsgood 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (8 children)

    Translation: The virus is free to incubate and mutate as much as it can without medical intervention. This is how you make a weak virus deadly to a higher percentage of the population.

    [–]christnmusicreleases[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

    That's the scary part. Add to that the fact the mRNA vaccines manufacture mutations of the virus in the recipients' bodies.

    [–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    The mRNA vaccines instruct your cells to create spike proteins, not the virus. You're retarded.

    [–]christnmusicreleases[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    No, you don't understand science.

    The antibodies the mRNA vaccines makes you produce is not for the coronavirus, it's for a fragment of the virus. In the end you will get a hyper-inflammatory response when you encounter the real thing, get sick and die.

    [–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    The antibodies the mRNA vaccines makes you produce is not for the coronavirus, it's for a fragment of the virus.

    Yes, for the spike protein.

    In the end you will get a hyper-inflammatory response when you encounter the real thing, get sick and die.

    Tell that to the people in the multiple successful treatment arms of the clinical trials

    [–]christnmusicreleases[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    The VAERS and UK databases say otherwise.

    [–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    The VAERS and UK databases track reported vaccine side effects. They do not track what happens with subsequent infection.

    [–]christnmusicreleases[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    They also track vaccine-caused deaths, which is the big issue here, in addition to the permanent debilitating health effects. Like nervous system disorders.

    [–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    So you've changed your argument?

    [–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    Activities that prevent the spread of germs have prevented the spread of influenza as well as COVID-19, which has a much higher R0

    I'm shocked. SHOCKED

    [–]christnmusicreleases[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (7 children)

    Those activities may affect bacteria. They don't affect viruses.

    [–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

    "Social distancing, hand-washing, mask-wearing, and lockdowns don't stop the spread of pathogens." -A fucking retard, 2021

    You're a fucking retard

    [–]christnmusicreleases[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    You're a vaxhole and a black hole of stupidity. You can't block a virus that with a filter that is wider than the virus. You can't prevent infection through a 6 foot distance when coronaviruses can float up to 30 m. Lockdowns never protect the well, the are meant to quarantine only the sick. You have it ass-backwards.

    [–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    You can't block a virus that with a filter that is wider than the virus.

    Explain to me what a respiratory droplet is, and what size it is

    You can't prevent infection through a 6 foot distance when coronaviruses can float up to 30 m.

    The majority of respiratory infection occurs after sustained proximity to infected people

    Lockdowns never protect the well, the are meant to quarantine only the sick.

    Quarantines and lockdowns are separate things, and protect both of those groups

    You're still retarded

    [–]christnmusicreleases[S] 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (3 children)

    Put on ten masks for 100% efficiency to block all possible contact with droplets, and die of asphyxiation.

    [–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    It's telling that you have to resort to an absurd conclusion in order to defend your argument

    [–]christnmusicreleases[S] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    CDC Walks Back Claim…Now Says People With Vaccination Can Still Get Wuhan Virus…So Why Bother? Don’t wear a mask. Wear a mask. Wear one mask. Wear two masks. The virus spreads on surfaces. The virus doesn’t spread on surfaces. Stand 6 feet apart. You only need to stand 3 feet apart. Kids shouldn’t play sports. Kids can play non-contact sports with masks. Kids can play contact sports but must wear a mask. Then they suggested a five-layer mask. Next, will be ten. Wear the whole effing box. It's a logical progression. This isn't about health, it's about submission. There's no scientific basis for any of these guidelines whatsoever. It's a smokescreen to get everyone in on a social credit system, global communitarianism.

    [–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I asked you specific claims about masks, droplet size, the way that influenza and other long-known viruses have been known to spread, and each time you deflect and take a shit all over yourself.

    Do you have any capacity to actually address the flaws I pointed out in your argument? I could point out flaws in your current one, but you'd just switch topics again.

    Masks are primarily effective by stopping respiratory droplets that contain viruses, not loose viral particles themselves (though even then electorstatic interactions seem to help, for some materials).

    Vaccines build resistance by triggering an immune response to an inactivated virus or to the viral spike protein--do you know what that means and why I keep referring to it? Show me that you're capable of having this discussion.

    [–]jet199 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

    The thing is that asymptomatic infection has never been shown to be a risk with covid so by stopping symptoms the vaccine will indeed stop the virus spreading.

    The trouble is the whole justification for lockdown was that asymptomatic spreading was the main threat.

    So they can't say it will stop the virus spreading because then they will have to admit they have wasted a year of everyone's life and tanked the economy for no reason.

    [–]christnmusicreleases[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

    They're not stopping the cause of the symptoms, necessarily. They could be just concealing the illness through a band-aid style masking. Which means it would make people super-spreader factories if they take the vax.

    [–]jet199 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    How is concealing the illness different to stopping the symptoms?

    It's the same thing.

    If you don't have a cough then you don't have a cough whether it's stopped or concealed. It's the coughing which spreads the virus.

    [–]christnmusicreleases[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    No it's not. You can take a painkiller to alleviate symptoms and then die from an illness that causes that pain. The pain itself doesn't kill you, it's the underlying disease. It's just a bandaid solution and you are still contagious during this time.

    It's a great way to eliminate large populations, if you were so inclined. Hidden super spreaders with their vaccine passports going everywhere to infect everybody without anybody noticing.

    [–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

    Antibody response stops SARS-CoV-2 and other viruses from replicating. Just like any pathogen, you'll be infected but your body will mount a response--the speed and efficacy of that response is dependent on whether you have existing antibodies and immune memory cells that can quickly replicate antibodies that were previously effective.

    [–]christnmusicreleases[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (4 children)

    But the antibodies the mRNA vaccines makes you produce is not for the coronavirus, it's for a fragment of the virus. In the end you will get a hyper-inflammatory response when you encounter the real thing, get sick and die.

    [–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

    The antibodies the mRNA vaccines makes you produce is not for the coronavirus, it's for a fragment of the virus.

    Yes, for the spike protein.

    In the end you will get a hyper-inflammatory response when you encounter the real thing, get sick and die.

    Tell that to the people in the multiple successful treatment arms of the clinical trials

    [–]christnmusicreleases[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

    The VAERS and UK databases say otherwise.

    [–]VirgilGriff 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    The VAERS and UK databases track reported vaccine side effects. They do not track what happens with subsequent infection.

    [–]christnmusicreleases[S] 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Like repeating yourself?