The River Thames has frozen over near London; a first in 60 years! Must be all that "Global Warming."

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[–]CallMeIshmael 6 insightful - 9 fun6 insightful - 8 fun7 insightful - 9 fun -  (1 child)

Guys, it's very simple.

If it's hotter than normal, that's because of global warming.

If it's colder than normal, that's also because of global warming.

[–]HiddenFox 9 insightful - 1 fun9 insightful - 0 fun10 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

I've kept daily weather logs for over 20 years now as part of my business. I dont claim to be a pro on this stuff but our weather here is definitely different then from 20 years ago.

For us so far things are better. Less snow and cold and longer summers and amazing falls. Our springs are almost non existent now. We go from a shorter winter to a snow/ rain mix for like two months and then bam, in like a week it changes into hot summer.

I think your a fool if you deny that a change is happening but I do belive that the consequences are vastly overstated. I also believe that a lot of the green movements profit driven not true environmentalism to help the planet.

[–]specialsauces 6 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 1 fun7 insightful - 2 fun -  (21 children)

the glaciers are melting. We are bulldozing the rain forests. There have been many oil spills around the world, including the exxon valdez off the coast of alaska and the british petroleum(BP) oil spill off the coast of louisiana which have destroyed every creature that lives in those waters.

We are destroying the planet earth, our economies are crumbling, and the current political chaos is the result of the ultra rich scrambling to scrape the final crumbs off of our financial tables so that they can put another $200k of fuel into their megayachts.

omg, dont even look at this unless you want to lose your lunch, this river in the following video was fresh water and had plenty of fish in it twenty years ago, but now it is full of garbage.

video: one of the world's dirtiest rivers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkSXB-lRAp0

and this video is a tribute to the elite rich and how they live while they destroy our environment and our economies..

video: The Rich Kids of Monaco

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGw1sqZvq9M

[–]insta 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (13 children)

We are destroying the planet earth, our economies are crumbling, and the current political chaos is the result of the ultra rich scrambling to scrape the final crumbs off of our financial tables so that they can put another $200k of fuel into their megayachts.

Why do environmentalists always have to cram like 4 different political problems into one solution? There wouldn't be so much pushback on you guys if you guys didn't sound like lunatic utopians all the time.

[–]specialsauces 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

i am not trying to cram four problems into one solution.. instead, i was just explaining to you that there are probably way more than four problems in this world, and there is not even one single solution, for we are quite simply beyond the point of no return..

fresh water is almost gone. we are experiencing some major fresh water shortages worldwide. when the fresh water runs out, every thing runs out and you will die.

the fish are dying... we built hydroelectric dams, which blocked the salmon from being able to swim back upstream to lay their eggs and so we penned them up and now they are all sick because they are living way too close to each other, or something like that, but you can bet that when you go to the supermarket and buy salmon that you are buying a diseased animal and that you are eating diseases.

the bees are dying.. the bees normally have a natural compass that tells them where they are flying from/to, but that compass has stopped working because FUCKING MONSANTO HAS SPRAYED FUCKING POISON ALL OVER THE CROPS WHICH IS KILLING THE BEES. When the bees die, the pollenation process stops and then pretty much all flowering plants will die, or something like that.. when that happens, you will die.

we have found it necessary to genetically modify our food crops to feed the ever increasing masses, and even though these genetically modified foods actually do look like food they are not actually food, but instead they are slowly poisoning our populations..

and, the little critters in our bodies have become resistant to the antibiotics..

and the list goes on and on and on.

and you think that i am trying to squeeze "four problems" into "one solution"?

no, i am explaining to you that we have so many problems and there is no solution.

we have gone way past the point of no return.

this planet simply can not support ten billion people.

and then mankind can return to making porno in peace.

the vaccines will be ready for distribution soon, and bill gates says that they are safe so that is good enough for me.

edit: and omg this is the cherry on the pie... this video is about a body of water that is the drinking water for los angeles i think, if i remember correctly... and they found that there was a buildup of a weird chemical of some sort, some weird word like bromide or whatever, it has been a while since i watched this video.. and so do you know how desperate of a move they made to stop the ever increasing levels of this bromide or whatever? they brought in NINETY SIX MILLION BLACK PLASTIC BALLS and dumped them into this body of water at a cost of approx thirty cents each.. so they spent something like $30,000,000.00 to put these black balls that float on the surface of the water which blocks the sunlight if i remember correctly? which allows that bromide or whatever crap to stop increasing? so that we can still drink that water? oh, here is the really bad news... those balls have a life expectancy of approx ten years.. so, in ten years they are going to need to purchase another $30,000,000.00 of black balls.

in closing sir, we are screwed as a species.

i suppose that you can call me an environmentalist, if you insist.

video: 96,000,000 black balls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uxPdPpi5W4o

edit: i didnt mention to you that i actually do know of one possible solution to all of the above problems.. roughly, it involves approx 90% of our species moving to another planet in another universe, in other words 90% of us have got to go..

ok, the vaccines are ready..

who's on first?

[–]Node 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

in other words 90% of us have got to go..

We're using up resources at around twice the replacement rate, and that's projected to triple by 2050.

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    [–]Node 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    We might be seeing a decrease in Texas right now.

    I've seen references to the various projected 'reductions in populations' by the so called elites, but haven't studied any of them. It's pretty nuts how things have come to this point.

    [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (6 children)

    So the environment is really simple, is it, and not connected to global weather patterns, corporate greed, corrupt politicians, etc. etc? The pushback is often from well-funded right-wing news and social media that are actively trying to keep people confused. It's not utopian or lunacy to note the problems with several interconnected global developments. Perhaps you're thinking of vegans or far-left arguments that fail to balance the discourse. No one takes those people seriously. But climate change can and should be limited.

    [–]insta 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (5 children)

    So the environment is really simple

    You guys say that, yet you're the ones with the overly simple cookie cutter solutions all the time. There's always a boogeyman like corporate greed or corrupt politicians, but don't worry, all these problems will vanish with our ideological dogma and throw in some stuff about UBI and environmental racism just for good measure.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

    No - I am not oversimplifying the argument (eg. with only boogeyman, or greed &c). I am trying to unpack the complexity of it. My first comment has a question after it. I am not the group of "you guys" that you suggest.

    [–]insta 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

    I am not the group of "you guys" that you suggest.

    The first thing you did as imply that I don't think global warming is a problem or that it's a simple fix. You guys always do this. Anyone who might have a problem with your rhetoric or ideology immediately must deny climate change. It's like talking with a stereotype everytime.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    It's apparent that we don't understand each other.

    My rhetoric and ideology is NOT necessarily what's at issue here. The discussion has been mainly about climate change, or whatever it is to be called, or what it is or what it isn't.

    [–]insta 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

    And my argument is environmentalists cannot talk uninterrupted without somehow winding their arguments to "We need to overthrow capitalism in the name of the whales". It's absurd and way too many environmentalists do this.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    ROFL: "We need to overthrow capitalism in the name of the whales"

    That ain't me, but who knows. I'll keep this in mind.

    [–]Canbot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    the glaciers are melting.

    And have been since the ice age ended. There is absolutely no reason to think anything that has been proposed to stop it would have any effect other than to give more control to the dictators and make the 1% far richer.

    We are bulldozing the rain forests.

    There are more trees today than there were 100 years ago. We have developed amazing technology that allows us to plant millions of trees with ease. And nature has an amazing ability to recover. All the claims that there is irreparable harm done is bullshit that an alarmist pulled out of their ass to scare you into doing what they want. There is not one single scientifically verifiable claim that should make you think deforestation is destroying the world. It is unfortunate, forests are beautiful, but it's nice to not have a famine.

    There have been many oil spills around the world

    Oil companies are in fact owned by the most despicable people around. Almost as bad a bankers. We definitely need stronger laws to protect the environment from oil companies who have done some abhorrent things like dumping dispersants onto oil spills instead of cleaning them up, which created an extremely toxic byproduct that they just left to kill everything. Oil company execs deserve to all be executed.

    We are destroying the planet earth

    That is a meaningless claim. Forest fires used to regularly destroy huge swaths of the "world" which are now controlled by humans. Volcano eruption destroy entire islands of life, only to have life reemerge a few decades later. A meteorite literally changed the face of the planet, and arguably its much better now than before. Shit changes, the planet will survive just fine. It's a fucking planet.

    our economies are crumbling

    That is entirely controlled by bankers.

    and the current political chaos is the result of

    They aren't scrambling. They create chaos to control you. They also create doomsday theories like global warming to control you. Fear is the easiest way to control people. They make you fear war, economic collapse, racism, global warming, germs and viruses, shortages of resources, over population, population collapse, famine, super volcanoes, asteroids, solar flares, magnetic reversal, and whatever else you are dumb enough to get scared by.

    and this video is a tribute to the elite rich and how they live while they destroy our environment

    Don't be so envious of the rich. The reality is that the pollution you posted in the first video is not caused by the rich in Monoco but by the poor people living next to that river. The reality is when you go go the ghetto you find that the streets are always covered in garbage. It's the poor who pollute. Or rather the stupid who pollute, who also happen to be poor because of their low intelligence. The solution to pollution is eugenics.

    [–]DannyBoy 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

    We are destroying the planet earth

    That is a meaningless claim.

    video: A 25-year legal battle over oil pollution in Ecuador’s Amazon rainforest

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B5vt8fP8LU8

    our economies are crumbling

    That is entirely controlled by bankers.

    our economies are crumbling because we simply do not have enough natural resources to support a population of ten billion people. When there are no more potatoes, for example, neither dollars nor bitcoin will be able to purchase a potato, no matter how many dollars and bitcoins you possess.

    We are bulldozing the rain forests.

    once it is gone, it is gone, and you are not gonna get it back.. we are clearing land to grow crops and to raise farm animals so that we can feed our ever increasing populations. At some point, we will cross that magical point of no return, and the sad news is that we may have already crossed that line.

    video: The destruction of the amazon

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAZAKPUQMw0

    your move.

    [–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    our economies are crumbling because we simply do not have enough natural resources to support a population of ten billion people.

    that just isn't true. they tell you that there is a famine when they start geocoding people with starvation. The famine is artificial. It's all just population control.

    once it is gone, it is gone, and you are not gonna get it back.

    Wrong. Trees can be replanted. The whole claim that if we lose too many species of ants that everything collapses forever is propaganda. You have been lied to about the environment your entire life. The line of no return is propaganda. There is zero evidence for such a claim. There is a mountain of evidence for "life finds a way".

    [–]ah2020 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    All correct. I have been feeling horrid about this for decades.

    [–]Bigs 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

    Without clicking the link, I double-guarantee that river will be in a POOR country.

    Rich countries don't pollute. The worst pollution i've seen is when riding through poor countries, not rich ones.

    Glaciers often melt, and as they do they are revealing the remains of life under them, that was thriving before the area froze over. That should teach you something?

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Excellent points, here and below. Some of Saidit's meteorologists went to Trump University.

    [–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    No one as ever denied that weather changes. It has in fact always been constantly changing. That it changes does not mean that any of the global warming predictions of doom are true.

    [–]twolanterns 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    the bigger a city gets the more concrete and asphalt that absorbs heat

    most temps quoted are city centers

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      [–]Canbot 5 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 2 fun6 insightful - 3 fun -  (8 children)

      I love it! No evidence to the contrary is actual evidence to the contrary because all evidence supports the narrative. Freezing temperatures are actually caused by global warming, goy.

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        [–]Canbot 7 insightful - 2 fun7 insightful - 1 fun8 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

        Yeah sure, the evidence is something you can't ever verify yourself. It is based on historical data that is not accurate, has been tampered with, and whenever a scientist brings forward contradicting data they are blacklisted and attacked.

        Meanwhile the evidence that the global warming claims are wrong is the fact that every single claim made has been proven wrong. Islands that were claimed to be under water now are not. Manhattan Island is supposed to be under water, it is not. Water front property is more expensive than ever since no one intelligent enough to be that rich is dumb enough to believe the lies. No global warming prediction about what the weather will be like in 2020 came true, Not Fucking One.

        We don't have super tornadoes. We don't have super storms. We don't have famines. We don't have locusts destroying everything. It was all bullshit.

        Stop being a fucking sheep in the face of overwhelming evidence that you have been lied to.

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          [–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          Which ski resorts are those?

          [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          Upvoter is right about the UK only being habitable due to the gulf stream, but apparently believes the fake science.

          Plenty of real earth and space weather on this page: https://suspicious0bservers.org/

          Daily update vid, plus playlists that will curl your hair.

          [–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          I lost all faith in the suspicious observer when he made big claims about the solar maximum causing huge changes to the weather and it never happened. The solar maximum came and went with nothing happening. Then he started claiming that the solar minimum was going to be the catalyst for great change. He is nothing more than another doomsday alarmist.

          The UK is comfortably habitable due to the gulf stream. When the gulf stream eventually changes they will be like canada. Not uninhabitable, but not some place anyone wants to live. Of course if the gulf stream were to do a complete 180 and bring arctic air down on them like it does in Siberia, then it would be like Siberia, but that is not going to happen for hundreds if not thousands of years. A reasonable shift in the next 50 could happen though, regardless of what humans do.

          [–]Node 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Wasn't being entirely serious about the "only being habitable" part, as my past experiences with freezing weather causes me to reject anyplace that features it. I do know there are people who embrace that kind of hardship, but while 80% of the US is freezing their butts off, it's 60F and sunny on the best coast.

          I'm not familiar with his claims about the solar maximum. Even if it doesn't come to mile-high waves sweeping the planet as the crust breaks up, the increasing numbers of changes being reported by the scientific community are somewhat of an indicator of what's to come.

          After being kicked off jewtube for wrongthink, I don't catch every daily update anymore. It's still nice to catch the updates on the latest degree of change on occasion.

          [–]Bigs 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          Life isn't a movie.

          [–]Airbus320 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (0 children)

          u/gretathroatborg come back!

          [–]specialsauces 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

          i am no expert in global warming, but i seem to remember reading somewhere that global warming will turn some places warmer and will turn other areas colder.

          maybe someone can confirm this one way or the other.

          [–]Nemacolin 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Weather is of course wicked complex.

          "Global warming" is a shorthand sort of term that may help or hinder understanding.

          The thing is that there is more energy in the system. Some of that energy is expressed in higher temperatures. Some is expressed in more and more-dangerous storms. The climate is generally hotter, but is always more extreme.

          [–]ukrdude10 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

          Yes that is correct. There are speculations that climate change can shut down ocean circulation, which means western Europe won't get warm equatorial currents anymore, and will experience frigid, snowy winters like Canada.

          Meanwhile, currently moderate, rainy climates will become hot and dry, which threatens food supplies for billions of people.

          [–]specialsauces 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          i can hardly wait to go snow skiing in miami.

          [–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          All areas are expected to be warmer on average. The real answer is that weather and climate are two separate things. The weather being well below average doesn't invalidate the overall trend.

          [–]zyxzevn 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (1 child)

          The global temperatures and weather cycles are mainly related to the sun.
          The pollution and deforestation and such have immense damage as well, but do not have that much of an impact on the global climate.

          The sun is not constant at all, and we differences in climate on every Mars as well. The radiation from the sun varies a lot, but not that much on the frequency that is used in official climate reports. The energy of x-ray outbursts is immense, and absorbed high in the atmosphere.

          Only the last 10 years we have discovered that the solar wind contributes a lot to the temperature. A solar storm can heat up the planet for +4 C for several days. The solar wind also fuels the jet-streams, which in their turn cause the hurricanes. This has been known for ages, but was never understood.

          The solar wind (Solar Particle Forcing) is like a continuous stream of hot particles that enter the atmosphere. During solar magnetic storms this continuous wind becomes turbulent and does not stream as well. So at those times the Earth cools down.

          This knowledge can be used to do more accurate weather predictions, but is not used, because it debunks the climate change agenda.

          [–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          The global temperatures and weather cycles are mainly related to the sun.

          Lol, no the fuck they aren't. We've been directly measuring solar output directly for decades now. The main fluctuations are the 11-year cycle, but overall output has actually decreased slightly, and is expected to decrease a bit more for a while as the evidence indicates that we might be entering a Grand Solar Minimum.

          But these are small fluctuations, on the order of tens or hundredths of a percent of total output. While this would slightly reduce the overall temp increases we're seeing from the strengthened greenhouse effect resulting from all the greenhouse gases we're putting into the atmosphere (mainly CO2), the ~1C warming we've seen over the last century is most certainly not because of the sun.

          [–]Nonime 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

          That's why they call it climate change now, because of the confusion that calling it global warming caused.

          Climate change means some places get warmer, some places get colder, and weather systems are becoming unpredictable.

          Don't be a fool.

          [–]Bigs 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

          There was no "confusion", you lying scroat.

          [–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

          Grow up

          [–]Bigs 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          I did, years ago. Your turn, scroat?

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Is this you?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UX4fSP9x4ng

          [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          Yep - global warming is obvious in the data, but the appropriate term is climate change, because some meteorologists on Saidit will think a few degrees in temperature is insignificant, because they're fellating right-wing news media

          [–]FediNetizen 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

          Evangelical Christians as a group are some of the dumbest motherfuckers in the western world, man. How do you not understand the difference between the climate and the weather in fucking 2021? Maybe put the bible down and read something educational for once.

          The polar vortex broke. That's why we're experience record cold temps. Discrete events like this don't invalidate the overall warming trend.

          [–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

          What should we do with them?

          [–]twolanterns 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

          and 60 years ago it did - the point lost (intentionally) by the Climate Crisis crowd that its all hogwash and a lie they are spewing trying to force their agenda which is really about power via socialism