Trump is winning election lawsuits, in case you haven’t heard

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[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

This:

Reliable is relative to what the powers at be want to here.

Is unrelated to this:

You think when the Jews went to courts against the Nazis and their cases were thrown out they had no viable evidence?

Jewish families had records of what the Nazis took, and wanted it back.

Giuliani and associated morons had no reliable evidence of election fraud. Instead he hired a circus of gossipy lunatics who said they knew people who knew people who saw stuff that didn't seem like proper vote counting for a few hundred ballots here or there.

[–]TheEvilNick 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

They actually had proof but no courts would even let them present it. You can't say "no widespread proof", you're already admitting to proof. Dominion tried to gag order everyone to stop accusing them but literally no one even batted an eye and kept pushing because they knew if it goes to court dominion would be biting their nose to spite their face. They're going to continue to push and the mainstream will continue to deny Hopi g it will just go away. Right now they're already winning a case in AZ to deep search dominons machines and servers there. Too had just like hillarythat shits wiped. There have been multiple cases in lower courts and lower elections where Dems have already been caught using illegal means to win, such as dead votes. Two elections have been overturned due to it. More will come. Shits gonna get weird and those who think Russia is the problem are blind to China and the fact every other country in the world wants us fighting among ourselvss. Why do you think every other country pushed for us to take so many immigrants yet takes a smidgen of what we do?

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

OK - I agree these are good points. And I genuinely hope Dominion goes out of business and we return to paper ballots and simple counting machines, rather than electronic voting machine options.

But we do know something about Giuliani's evidence because he was permitted to submit the eyewitness accounts at Michigan Hearing. And the star witness was this unhinged, entirely onconvincing person: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2f3aw9rk30

[–]TheEvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

what makes her unhinged? just asking.

[–]johndenverjr 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

she is a transgenders.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Trying to push a narrative for which she has no real evidence, lecturing others about what she say, pushing an agenda that is unfounded, getting really excited about this unfounded information, trying to manipulate the process, focusing on her situation as a victim, etc, etc.

[–]TheEvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

so how many people believed the russia hoax without real evidence? it was built on a fake dossier from a hack. How many people clung to the NYtimes story about russian bounties on American soldiers with literally ZERO evidence. How many people jumped on the Ukrainian phone attack hit from nothing but a narrative built from someone who wouldnt even show their face?

Testimony is what is supposed to initiate investigating for truth. Its how cases are built. People are put away for life or even death row on nothing but eye witness testimony. The woman was a dominion employee. You cant get much more eyewitness that an employee. It should have been enough to halt any actions on their machines and servers but they couldnt wait to pull their machines out and wipe/alter their software.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks for this.

The woman was a dominion employee

I remember watching the full testimony weeks ago, and I could see that her brief role with the Dominion company and her lack of reliable evidence were both problematic. Though she was give this time in Michigan to plead her case, she did not do so under oath, nor did any of the other people who claimed Dominion committed fraud. She was not a strong witness because se could not offer sufficient evidence.

Believe it or not: I wish she had been more credible. I want Dominion to fail and for all votes to be counted by hand by bipartisan volunteers. There is a serious problem with electronic voting machines, which also benefitted Trump in this election and in 2016. It should stop.

[–]TheEvilNick 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

then lets hope we go back to the correct way of physical ballots and checking ID in the future.