Alabama has the Lowest Vaccination Rate (of Course)

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[–][deleted] 10 insightful - 3 fun10 insightful - 2 fun11 insightful - 3 fun -  (19 children)

I guess they're not stupid. I don't bother with the yearly flu shot myself, it's just for old people with weak bones and general poor health. But they market it to young healthy people too, profits profits.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (18 children)

It's fiduciary irresponsibility.

It is stupid to compare COVID19 with the flu.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 5 fun4 insightful - 4 fun5 insightful - 5 fun -  (12 children)

It's stupid to die on this hill, socks.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

It may be, Saidit helps me to see alternative points of view. Sometimes I comment because I'm surprised by what I've read.

It's also interesting that there are 10s of thousands of subscribers per sub, and the posts are seemingly not worth the votes or comments of 99% of the subscribers. There appears to be a silent majority who don't agree with most posts. When I see a sensible post or comment, I +friend them and will try to keep track of how many there are in this category. Currently: approximately 12.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (3 children)

I would say that most of what makes the front page is utter garbage. There are lurkers here, but they seem to be in their own private subs mostly, rather than taking part in the main threads.

I doubt you are actually here for alternative points of view. You would surely reach out to others or make a post stating your intention if that were the case. You'd put forth an effort into understanding those alternative points of views. I argued with another user who claimed to be doing the same thing, not just for private use, but for use in his classroom. I asked him to make a separate post to generate discussion, debate, but nothing. He seemed to find me laughable.

I don't act like a dick just to act like a dick. I made an account because I was tired of seeing Trumpists, Nemacolin, and a few others, endlessly bashing users with their establishment drivel. The discussions became interesting for a while, and all sides have offered links, sources, and new avenues. You and Nema included. I'm glad I spent some time here, but from what I can tell, it's going to become a private-community driven place with a front page full of memes and establishment-types like you arguing with Trumpists, and winning because you folks are often arguing against hilariously naive conservatives. Easy pickings, in my eyes.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 2 fun2 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

I doubt you are actually here for alternative points of view.

Do you think he's a shill?

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I don't know, maybe he is but does so unknowingly. That seems like a possibility for some people, I know that I was like that as a child due to how I had been raised. It's just that I have gone to forums for "alternative points of view" and I didn't agree with half of what I read there. I didn't treat people with the same amount of contempt socks does with folks here. I first made this account because of the contempt some users here have towards those who question the pandemic (or, really, those who question anything in life).

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Thanks for this. I've offered posts, and will offer more. I have yet to look at other subs, and have remained with the subs that were automatically assigned. Perhaps one of the benefits of Saidit is that it's relatively new. I was on Reddit when it started, for reasons similar to why I am at Saidit - to try to understand the site and the way people think here. When Reddit began, it was only a few hundred IT professionals who discussed the news, and most of them in their early 20s. Many of use used it like a news aggregator site, much like the previous BBS. Within a couple of years thereafter, a number of changes made Reddit grow as a profitable site, but simultaneously develop with the average mentality of a 13-year-old on many subs.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 3 fun2 insightful - 2 fun3 insightful - 3 fun -  (4 children)

It's also interesting that there are 10s of thousands of subscribers per sub, and the posts are seemingly not worth the votes or comments of 99% of the subscribers.

Every new account is automatically subscribed to every available sub.

There appears to be a silent majority who don't agree with most posts.

FTFY.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

All right, then: /s/news has 38,406 readers (many of them not hear at the moment), but there are only 13 votes for the present post. Why aren't the other 38,393 engaged? When Saiditors can address this properly, the site will develop.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Most people that end up using saidit stop, because right-wingers and conspiracy theorists have a strong presence that turns a lot of people off. Maybe they've had 40,000 people sign up, but of those I think there are less than a thousand actually active. Saidit also took a bit hit in popularity when IP2 got banned.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

I think you misrepresent those who lurk. I lurked for three months as I watched Reddit die. There are more lurking here who agree with the different views here than you let on.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

/s/news has 38,406 readers (many of them not hear at the moment), but there are only 13 votes for the present post. Why aren't the other 38,393 engaged?

Because most posts in news are boring.

[–]FediNetizen 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

It's not stupid to challenge people that try to say COVID-19 is comparable to the flu. COVID-19 is far more deadly, and more viral, than the flu. It persists in warm weather where the flu dies off. It has strange side effects like loss of taste & smell, and quite possibly has other long-term consequences we don't yet understand.

It's quite sensible to take it far more seriously.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

It's quite sensible to thoroughly question and test everything that comes from the establishment. People like you, and those on the news, act like there is a complete consensus regarding the reaction to this covid scandal. There isn't a consensus. Legitimate doctors have lost their jobs for questioning things. Coroners have quit because they were asked to break the law. People have been silenced from one end of the spectrum to the other concerning this one issue.

Intelligent, educated people were protesting this from day one, and these people will continue to protest it in the years to come. This has been a scandal with long-term consequences we don't understand yet. You should be worried, and yet you tout over something that could've been dealt with months ago only if there had been a public debate/decision-making process involved. You should be ashamed of yourself.

[–]Tom_Bombadil 5 insightful - 2 fun5 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 2 fun -  (2 children)

It is stupid to compare COVID19 with the flu.

Really??? Why has the flu disappeared after the Coco appeared?

It appears that even the CDC confuses the flu for Covid.

CDC: COVID-19 Wiped Out the Flu Around the World This Year

The group examined data from 300 U.S. clinical laboratories in 50 states, Puerto Rico, Guam, and the District of Columbia that participated in major surveillance systems.

In 2019, flu season started as normal in the U.S., increasing in early November with more than 20% of specimens testing positive for influenza from Dec. 15, 2019 to March 7, 2020.

But by March 22, while the number of samples tested remained high, percent positivity fell to 2.3%, and remained less than 1% since the week of April 5.

Below the equator, the numbers also point to a dramatically reduced flu season. Australia, Chile, and South Africa, where winter is now ending, reported just 55 positive specimens total across the three countries out of 83,307 tested (0.06%, 95% CI 0.04%-0.08%) during April-July compared to 25,000 specimens testing positive of 178,690 in 2019 (13.7%, 95% CI 13.6%-13.9%).

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Thanks for the article. Part of the problem is that - if you get COVID19 - you have less of a chance to get the flu. Moreover, flu-like symptoms are among the symptoms one can get with COVID19, and thus a misdiagnosis is possible if - whilst having a flu - one does not take the COVID19 test, or take it properly.

The website for this article focuses on stories that will get clicks (cliskbait), in order to earn more money for investors, and acquire other medical websites. It's only 15 years old, and thus not known for substantial biasis, but the website was founded as a profit-making company, by this person: https://www.crunchbase.com/person/robert-stern

[–]Tom_Bombadil 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Part of the problem is that - if you get COVID19 - you have less of a chance to get the flu.

Source?

This is an interesting idea though.
The notion that one flu-symptom inducing illness could reduce susceptibility to another flu-symptom inducing illness.

However, there's strong evidence that the flu vaccine increases susceptibility to coronavirus infections.

Influenza Vaccine: Military Study Shows 36% Higher Odds Of Coronavirus, 2017-2018

Also, numerous sources have identified whatever it is that passes for Covid-19 in samples that existed prior to 2020.

However, a peer reviewed journal article has never been published, which details the methodology used to conclusively isolate the virus from all other biological materials.

PCR is a manufacturing process. It's not actually a test.

They're using misusing PCR to manufacture a biological sample sausage, and then claiming that they can see a new and previously unidentified virus strain in the PCR sausage.

It's not science. It's hoax sausage.

[–]bjam27 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

It's hilarious watching people compare 2 years of Covid with 3 months of Flu.

Like for like, Covid is less than the flu.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Perhaps if you're in the make-believe world of Fox "News".

[–]The_Lear_Bluce_Ree 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

Don't act like you suddenly care about them, you just want to shit on them.

[–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That is simply not true. I am laughing at them. (But mostly I laugh at people from Missouri, just as everyone does.)

[–]Nemacolin[S] 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

I got my first shot already.

Alabama is currently ranked dead last on a CDC dashboard showing the percentage of population in each state that has received the COVID-19 vaccine.

As of Thursday afternoon, Alabama reported the lowest COVID vaccination rate of any state, and the only state listed as having given the vaccine to less than 2 percent of its population.

According to the dashboard, Alabama has administered at least the first dose of the vaccine to 92,300 people, about 1.9% of the population.

The Alabama Department of Public Health, which is administering the vaccine rollout in the state, says they don’t concur with the data.

“The Alabama Department of Public Health (ADPH) data does not concur with CDC’s data at the moment,” ADPH’s Dr. Karen Landers said by email Thursday. “ADPH is looking into this to ensure that all doses Alabama has administered are counted.”

The CDC dashboard currently shows Alabama with the lowest vaccination rate of any state, with many other Southeastern states ranked near the bottom. Georgia is second from the bottom, having vaccinated 2.2% of its population, followed by South Carolina at 2.3%. The dashboard reports how many people per 100,000 living in each state have received at least one dose of the vaccine. Alabama’s number was 1,882 people per 100,000, or 1.9% of the total population.

Many parts of Alabama are only offering the vaccine to people in Phase 1a of the state’s vaccine allocation plan, frontline health care workers and people living in nursing homes or long-term care facilities.

Beginning on Monday, the state will offer vaccines to people age 75 and older, as well as emergency first responders throughout the state, but there are few places where people can receive a vaccine. However, some states, including Texas and California, already began offering the vaccines to anyone over 65.

[–][deleted] 4 insightful - 4 fun4 insightful - 3 fun5 insightful - 4 fun -  (3 children)

"I got my first shot already." Aww, what a good little follower you are!

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Don't be mean to Nemacolin.

[–][deleted] 3 insightful - 4 fun3 insightful - 3 fun4 insightful - 4 fun -  (0 children)

I will do as I will, sir.

[–]Airbus320 1 insightful - 2 fun1 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 2 fun -  (0 children)

Why not?😮