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[–]tomatosplat 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I know a lot of people in healthcare. None of them will take it.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

The thing is the people who want to use vaccines as a delivery method for other things aren't just going to do it on the first batch of people and prove the conspiracy theorists right. So the real threat right now is not the real threat of intentional attack, but rather the high probability of unforeseen harm. Ultimately they will do everything they can to "prove" that the vaccines are safe and all the anti vax people are crazy. They will do this over a course of years, until they have made even the anti vax people think they are fools. Then they will start using the vaccines for delivery of whatever weapon they have planned.

So don't go "jesus on the street corner" with your warnings. It will only make it easier for everyone to write you off as stupid. Expect that this vaccine will become a regular thing like the flu vaccine. It will not be one and done. They will claim that the virus has mutated and you need another vaccine. They would use the flu vaccine but not enough people take it.

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    [–]Aureus 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    It's a never-before-used technology and it hasn't even gone through Phase III trials (which were required for every other vaccine before this). That's a good enough reason for anybody.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

    Click-bait news, especially if we do not know the reasons these frontline workers chose to let someone else take the vaccine, rather than take it themselves. At issue:

    fewer than half of the 700 hospital workers eligible for the vaccine were willing to take the shot when it was first offered.

    If you're covered in PPE regularly and would rather that the people around you - who are not covered in PPE - get the vaccine first, then pass up the opportunity. A number of these 350 professionals will have easy access to the vaccine later, and will soon take it, most likely. Some will not want to take it. Nothing surprising here.

    [–]StrategicTactic 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    While every person can make up their own reasons, and what you say may be true for some, I dont think it stands up to any scrutiny. Do doctors regularly refuse medication for a disease they are actively fighting? If you really believed you had risk of catching something that you think could kill everyone you loved close to you, would you hold off on getting a treatment now, because of easier access later? I think it more likely that people are personally judging the risks of catching it and getting through vs taking a vaccine that is not fully tested and accepting all liability.

    [–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    if we do not know the reasons these frontline workers chose to let someone else take the vaccine, rather than take it themselves.

    My own personal estimate is that the majority don't want to be guinea pigs (that's mentioned in the article, many people don't want to be first) although it's quite possible some believe the need is else where. Or both, they're not mutually exclusive.

    My wife didn't volunteer to be one of the preferential first. It wasn't like an order or anything people declined but rather you had the option if you wanted it. The expectation was, also mentioned in the article, there'd be more takers than vaccines.

    To be fair to the article, the relevant info is there, it's just propagandized to support a certain narrative.

    [–]copenseethe 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    I'm hoping that documented proof of vaccination doesn't become a requirement before being able to fly or enter a grocery store.