Robert E. Lee statue removed from U.S. Capitol; Barbara Rose Johns to replace him

submitted by Nemacolin from wjla.com

all 20 comments
sorted by:
top
newinsightfulfun

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (14 children)

More virtue signaling, less action, same as usual.

[–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (13 children)

I am glad you are not upset about it.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (12 children)

Lee himself didn't want monuments to stay up, so I don't really mind — but he's an inspiration to a lot of people in the South, since he resigned from one of the highest positions in the US military to fight for his home state, right or wrong. I have mixed feelings about him personally, but a lot of people do admire him.

The flag is what I mostly care about.

[–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (11 children)

He was literally a traitor. He violated his oath. He fought to enslave people.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (10 children)

Actually, he fought for his home state of Virginia, so he wasn't a traitor. If he defected to the North: then he'd be a traitor. I respect fighting for your state, right or wrong, and this applies to both sides.

I personally hold more loyalty to the State of Arkansas than to the United States, and would probably fight for the former over the latter — but if it was over slavery, I wouldn't. If there was another Civil War, it would probably be over guns or so'm, so it'd be much easier for me to support the South.

[–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

Actually, he turned his back of his oath "to preserve, protect & defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies foreign and domestic."

He had no oath before God to defend slavery or Virginia. Article 3, Section 3 defines treason; "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." He did this. He was a traitor. He fought for slavery.

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Actually, he turned his back of his oath "to preserve, protect & defend the Constitution of the United States from all enemies foreign and domestic."

He was only enforcing the right of the states to secede, as protected by the tenth amendment (leftists love to pretend this one doesn't exist), which states:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

Even Lincoln believed states had the right to secede, which is why he didn't actually invade until the Confederates attacked first.

He had no oath before God to defend slavery or Virginia.

I'd assume the Confederates probably made him take an oath before becoming a General, but perhaps not. Regardless, simple words cannot defeat the familial bonds one has with their home state — and it cannot alleviate one of the duty to serve said home state.

Article 3, Section 3 defines treason; "Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War against them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort." He did this.

Actually, when the Civil War began, Lee was a citizen of the CSA, not the USA, thus was not committing treason, but was rather an enemy combatant.

He fought for slavery.

You say this again and again like it actually pertains to our disagreement, which isn't over slavery, but rather upon the merits of serving one's home state. You're like one of those idiots who scream "Black Lives Matter" when someone says they're pro-life.

[–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (7 children)

Wow. it takes a lot of words to argue against the plain facts.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

You think that's a lot of words? When did you drop out of high-school?

[–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Oh my goodness. Now you have hurt my feelings.

[–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Hard to argue with that.

Governor Ralph Northam announced on December 21 that Virginia’s statue of Confederate general Robert E. Lee was removed from the United States Capitol overnight. Lee's statue has stood in the Capitol for 111 years alongside George Washington as the statue representation for the commonwealth of Virginia.

On December 16, the Commission for Historical Statues in the United States Capitol selected civil rights icon, Barbara Rose Johns, to replace the Robert E. Lee statue, after receiving public input from Virginia residents during several virtual public hearings.

Civil rights attorney Oliver Hill Sr., John Mercer Langston, and Maggie Walker were also considered to replace Lee's statue.

A panel voted last week to remove the statue. There is no word yet on when the new statue will be erected.

"The two statues were added in 1909, which was 44 years after the Confederacy rebelled against the United States and was defeated. The Lee statue had been one among 13 located in the Crypt of the Capitol, representing the 13 original colonies," a statement from the Governor's office stated.

“We should all be proud of this important step forward for our Commonwealth and our country,” said Governor Northam.

[–]Tarrock 4 insightful - 2 fun4 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 2 fun -  (1 child)

This is the same guy that has a picture of him in blackface/kkk robes

[–][deleted] 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

He's just virtue signaling. He doesn't give a damn about racism.

[–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Oh, and here's a link:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Rose_Johns

[–][deleted]  (1 child)

[deleted]

    [–]Nemacolin[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

    Those who cannot dismember the past are content to repeal it. --Pogo