Derek Chauvin released from jail on $1 million bond

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[–]Iam1ofMany 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

And is now in hiding. I would almost be willing to make a hefty wager that he ends up walking after the trial. George Floyd was already dead before they laid a hand on him, he just didn't know it yet. The toxicology showed he had lethal doses of fentanyl in his system along with other drugs. It just amazes me that months and months of this bullshit resulted from a self induced overdose victim. It is only going to get worse when/if this guy walks.

[–]ReeferMadness 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (9 children)

The police officer should have provided medical aid as soon as his prisoner passed out.

[–]Iam1ofMany 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

Is that their responsibility? I am genuinely asking. Do you have their training/duties somewhere I could look at?

For the sake of argument, lets say they are required to administer some sort of medical aid. Should an officer be charged with murder for not doing so? If your answer to that question is yes then you have other issues that I can't help you with.

[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Murder would not be the correct charge.

If a kidnapper holds a hostage tied up and they die of a heart attack, or overdose that kidnapper would be charged with murder. While obviously the kidnapper is breaking the law, they are not intentionally murdering anyone.

Why is it not a leap to charge the kidnapper with murder, yet it is to charge the police officer?

[–]Iam1ofMany 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

The fact that you can't discern the difference between a kidnapper and what we as the public have given the police the authority to do tells me I don't need to talk to you anymore as your thoughts have no basis in reality.

[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

The fact that you can't discern the difference

That is not a fact you absolute retard, in fact I even stated that there is a difference. Why do you retards always try to end a conversation that goes over your head with these stupid personal attacks followed by "and that's why I wont talk anymore". Do you really think everyone doesn't see through your bullshit?

It's better to remain silent and let them think you a moron than speak up and confirm their suspicion.

[–]Iam1ofMany 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Comparing a kidnapper to a police officer and I am the retard... lol

[–]RuckFeddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

if we're having this discussion, which really should have been the original discussion, not "wacism", we should include the fact that he was trained by Israeli police, who were kind enough to share their knowledge on how they treat the-

SHUT
IT
DOWN

[–]ReeferMadness 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

We can have that discussion in parallel to the legacy media dumpster fire intersectional propaganda. Perhaps we could even have our own website, similar to Reddit but without the censorship and manipulation. We can call it saidit, as a play on reddit.

That it came from Israel does not automatically mean it is bad. If you are dealing with people who are trying to beat the shit out of you these tactics can be called for.

[–]RuckFeddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That's not the point I'm making. In a situation like this, the first point of action would be to question the training of the officer. This is the only logical way of preventing the issue from happening again. That didn't happen though.

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Nobody has ever come back from a X4 overdose of fentanyl. NOBODY!

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Did you do the autopsy, doctor?

[–]Iam1ofMany 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

No, but I did read the autopsy report and did my research on lethal level of drugs. And you?

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Nope. Shoot me a link.

[–]Iam1ofMany 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

I will give you the links that you could have easily searched for yourself but I have a feeling you are being disingenuous about your desire to see them from your other response. Floyd was at 11 ng/mL with several other drugs in his system(meth being one of them). The link below states it has been lethal as low as 7 ng/mL when other drugs are involved.

https://www.hennepin.us/-/media/hennepinus/residents/public-safety/documents/floyd-autopsy-6-3-20.pdf

https://www.emcdda.europa.eu/publications/drug-profiles/fentanyl_en#:~:text=The%20estimated%20lethal%20dose%20of%20fentanyl%20in%20humans,associated%20with%20fatalities%20where%20poly-substance%20use%20was%20involved.

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

So you are familiar with the concept of proximate cause? Since the man was not dead of an overdose at the eighth minute of being assaulted, what in the world makes you think he would have died from an overdose in the ninth minute?

Drugs in his system may have been a direct cause of his death without being the proximate cause.

In any case, let's give this man a full & fair trail by his peers. This is the best way to clear his good name.

I saw in the Times to day the three killers are requesting separate trials and Officer Chauvin is hoping to blame the rookies. It ought to be a very important trial as the man who had his knee on the man who died proves the other two guys killed him.

And just by the way, do we have the blood work on the people charged with the crime?

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Personally, I was deep in 4chan threads where Fentanyl addicts were discussing how fucked George Floyd was. They were discussing this before the autopsy had gone public. For your information, nobody has ever survived an overdose to the amount he had ingested. Few have survived even 1/3rd his overdose.

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

How many people have survived a nine minute chokehold?

(Just by the way, and just slightly on the subject, the Washington Post reports that 26 of the top 65 law enforcement agencies in the US now ban chokeholds.)

[–]Questionable[S] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Look, it's becoming blatantly obvious you did not watch the body cam footage. It's also becoming apparent that you don't give two shits about this topic and are only here to react to things.

[–]Nemacolin 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Actually, you are on to me. I do not watch TV or videos. They take too much time.

[–]RuckFeddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

Isn't bail money non-refundable in the US? so even if you are found innocent after, the state keeps the money. lmao

[–]Iam1ofMany 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

No, it is refundable either way. But if he used a bail bondman then whatever fee they were paid he won't get back.

Edit: bondsman... not bondman.

[–]RuckFeddit 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Ah okay. I heard this before, thanks for correcting me. So if it's a premium to a bondsman it's non-refundable, which I'm guessing is what he got. But even if they're found guilty the money is refunded otherwise if paid in cash.

[–]Iam1ofMany 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

If he doesn't show up for court then he ends up forfeiting the money though.