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[–]flush_the_turd 12 insightful - 4 fun12 insightful - 3 fun13 insightful - 4 fun -  (25 children)

What about a woman's right to choose?

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (24 children)

You have the choice to use birth control, the choice to keep your legs closed; you do not have the choice to kill someone else because you fucked up. Baby's body, baby's right to live.

[–]flush_the_turd 5 insightful - 1 fun5 insightful - 0 fun6 insightful - 1 fun -  (23 children)

The government doesn't have a right to tell women what they can do with their bodies

[–]Canbot 6 insightful - 1 fun6 insightful - 0 fun7 insightful - 1 fun -  (18 children)

The government has ever right to protect the baby from being murdered by it's mother.

[–]flush_the_turd 7 insightful - 3 fun7 insightful - 2 fun8 insightful - 3 fun -  (17 children)

The republicans only care about the baby up until it's born. Then it's fuck you.

[–]Canbot 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (16 children)

Welfare exists. Orphanages exist. Adoption exists. Republicans support all of it. You are full of shit.

[–]flush_the_turd 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (6 children)

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (5 children)

Not wanting to support 30 year old drug addicts while they refuse to get off drugs and get a job has fuck all to do with abortion.

[–]flush_the_turd 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

So only 30 yr old drug addicts get food stamps, wic, and housing assistance? Stop believing all the lies and get your head out of you ass.

https://www.govini.com/editorial-item/the-10-largest-programs-on-trumps-chopping-block/

https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/news/2020/08/12/489401/trumps-plan-defund-social-security/

And if you still don't believe it, then you can fuck right off.

[–]Canbot 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

"but I won't afford huh gucci and iphone" is not a valid excuse to murder your child. You don't need to be a cum dumpster in the first place.

"but you don't support infinite welfare and that means you don't REALLY care about the babies" is utterly retarded, if you don't believe that you can fuck right off.

[–]SaidOverRed 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

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[–]Comatoast 4 insightful - 1 fun4 insightful - 0 fun5 insightful - 1 fun -  (8 children)

Are you religious? I can't imagine anyone having opinions this extreme on abortion without the brain washing of some religious sect.

[–]Canbot 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (4 children)

No, I am merely logical. The baby is clearly human, and clearly a baby. If murder is wrong, then it applies to babies as well. What is extreme is denying the babies humanity because you want to justify murder. Especially when 90% of abortions are done simply because the baby is not wanted.

[–]Bl_nk 3 insightful - 1 fun3 insightful - 0 fun4 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Clump of cells is not a baby, at least be honest.

[–]Canbot 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You ARE a clump of cells. This argument is fucking retarded.

[–]Comatoast 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Killing a baby illogical and immoral. Terminating a pregnancy within the first 12 weeks is not comparable to killing a baby. Are you going to go through and have every food and spice that can stimulate uterine contractions put on a list as illegal for women to consume at all after they start menstruating too? I guess no more Italian food since basil, oregano and rosemary are on there. No more passion flower tea to help with sleep, no chamomile tea to help with relaxation.

https://www.utep.edu/herbal-safety/populations/herbs-to-avoid-during-pregnancy.html

[–]Bl_nk 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

Considering 33% of all pregnancies end in miscarriages ''god'' is the #1 abortionist.

[–]Velocity 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

Not killing the unborn is an extreme belief? You, uh talk about brainwashing, yet you sound as if you've become alienated from your own basic human compassion.

[–]Comatoast 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

I have a hard line of no post-first trimester (up to 12 weeks) abortions outside of some sort of serious defect or the pregnancy being life threatening. My own line would be 9 weeks, but I'm not sure that I could go through the process myself. I certainly don't consider them to be anymore than the framework of basic human anatomy til after maybe 9 weeks. They don't have complex enough brain/nervous system development that early on to even feel pain.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1440624/

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (3 children)

A baby is a different organism from the mother. A mother does not have the right to kill her unborn child. You might as well say that a mother has a right to kill her child that is born out of her body also according to the laws that allow abortion.

[–]flush_the_turd 2 insightful - 1 fun2 insightful - 0 fun3 insightful - 1 fun -  (2 children)

Bullshit take.

[–][deleted] 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (1 child)

You are not even refuting any of my points.

So an unborn child is not an individual organism, not a different human than the mother? Babies can survive even after 21 weeks in the womb outside:

https://www.lifenews.com/2020/06/24/born-at-21-weeks-youngest-surviving-premature-baby-in-the-world-now-heading-home/

Is that baby a part of the mother's body? If you can kill the baby at that age while its in the womb, then logically you should be allowed to kill it when it is outside of the womb, there is no difference.

If a mother can kill her unborn child, can she kill her child that is born then? Yes or no?

Do you actually know the process of abortions? It involves using a vacuum to violently destroy the fetus, and it later stages, ripping the baby limb from limb and crushing their head, and at the latest stages, killing the baby by injecting poison in them. That is what abortions are. Violent killing of a life.

[–]Comatoast 1 insightful - 1 fun1 insightful - 0 fun2 insightful - 1 fun -  (0 children)

That infant has an extremely high likelihood of suffering from long-term health problems.

The advocation for termination of a very much not viable fetus during the first trimester still stands. Especially when the rate of spontaneous abortion at that point is high enough as it is. A pregnancy at that point can be terminated by pill alone.